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Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf]

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This was a formative read for me many years ago but only recently realized there is also a novel version. Has anyone here read both?

It’s commonly agreed that the short version is way better.

Indeed. And it wasn't written in 1965, despite this title.

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    She said dont be scared Charlie you done so much with 
    so little I think you deserv it most of all. 
Charlie was a man with a good heart, motivation, and self-awareness, and yet the world was not so kind to him. The story reminds me of something I read somewhere: be kind to less intelligent people -- the world is already not so kind to them.

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There's something curiously American about Flowers for Algernon... our general popular culture tends to value physical achievement (the athlete) more than mental achievement (the nerd/geek). So here's the story of how the co-workers/peers of a mentally disabled individual, Charlie, (who they ridicule initially) react to the reversal of that disability (with suspicion and distrust) and then the re-imposition of that d…

I'm curious. I've never seen anything to make me think other cultures are that different in this regard. Would be interested in learning more.

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This was a formative read for me many years ago but only recently realized there is also a novel version. Has anyone here read both?

It’s commonly agreed that the short version is way better.

The novel and film are "fine" as I recall but the short story is the real classic.

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There's something curiously American about Flowers for Algernon... our general popular culture tends to value physical achievement (the athlete) more than mental achievement (the nerd/geek). So here's the story of how the co-workers/peers of a mentally disabled individual, Charlie, (who they ridicule initially) react to the reversal of that disability (with suspicion and distrust) and then the re-imposition of that d…

That's, more or less, one of the first questions I asked in this site. Paul Graham answered with photos of the football team and the chess club. It seems there is a physical difference bigger than what I've observed in Spain and more on the side of athletes. I don't see that kind of massive teens over here in campuses.

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Despite all my rational efforts; all the maths and research - there is a speck of insight that only poetry and literature can reach. It's irritating and comforting at the same time.

Thank you for this. This is exactly how I felt but could not articulate.

Thanks, that makes me happy.

You might also like this phrase I adore, which expresses the same sentiment in a more general way:

"And the words slide into the slots ordained by syntax, and glitter as with atmospheric dust with those impurities which we call meaning."

Of course, Anthony Burgess is much more of a poet than I am.

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I think too many of us believe that intelligence is valuable, in and of itself. Instead, I think we should value personal excellence. That is, making the most of the intelligence you’re given.

The arc of intelligence in Flowers of Algernon is the same arc that we’ll all experience over our lifetime. With old age, we, too, will lose our intelligence. If we value intelligence, in and of itself, we’ll eventually face a crisis of sorts. But, if we value making the most of our intelligence, we are resilient.

Applying this framework to Charlie, there’s much less to be sad about. He made the most of the intelligence he was gifted, and that’s what really matters.

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This was a formative read for me many years ago but only recently realized there is also a novel version. Has anyone here read both?

I have. I started with the novel, in a Polish translation, when I was maybe 13, and it had resonated with me so much that to this day I consider it _the_ most important book I’ve ever read. A formative read, indeed.

I read the short story a few years after that. I think it’s the essence; I perceive it as a distillation of the novel (rather than the novel a dilution of the story, though I’m aware the story was first.) I guess had I started with it, I’d be considering it _the_ most important short story I’ve ever read today.

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