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Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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I collect a lot of certs for fun, but most have not been helpful. I still like to collect them anyway. I think OSCP was the most legitimately useful in tech https://www.offensive-security.com/pwk-oscp/ PMP has been useful to take on Project Manager roles, but really PrM roles aren't all that exciting to begin with. Still helps when you want to run your own projects. I'm currently studying to be a certified parliament…

Oh god your CV must be a headhunter's wet dream.

It's not. Fit trumps quantity and quality any time.

I'm not OP, but I also have quite a bouquet of certifications. Why? Mostly because I love to learn and I also love to work towards goals. Also most certifications[1] are not that hard once you've figured out how to deal with scenario based multiple choice questions. It's a low effort way to focus my learning.

When it comes to hiring - and as someone who sat at both sides of the table - any certificate outside of what is expected in your industry does more harm than good.

[1] OSCP is the exception to the rule

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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Getting my EMT cert was pretty important for getting a job as an EMT. In all seriousness the difference between getting hired for my tech jobs vs as an EMT was interesting. I’m used to the standard multi week interview process, but for EMS the only question was if I had my certs.

It’s a sign of not enough people applying for EMT jobs and too many people applying for tech jobs.

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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As a hiring manager, I treat AWS certification (professional especially) as relatively a good heuristic. It does not replace hands-on experience of course, but it has good correlation with good hands-on ability. Another one that will catch my eye is any Kubernetes certification. Both are great additions to experience, the certification itself has much less value standalone, but it might be the edge that will help som…

I have a couple of AWS certs. They really helped me when I went to the AWS conference and got some great swag

I got the _best_ multi-adapter charger at AWS Summit London thanks to my cert.

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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MCSE really helped me.

In the late 90s, 98 I think, I worked for an internet startup that didn’t end up being huge. We were on Novell and a bit if solaris and had just launched a product that used windows nt and server side activex.

I was a college dropout web dev/web master making $50k. They had a hard time hiring devs who knew nt and could design and automate server farms. I learned on the job and did an ok job running it. But they wouldn’t promote me because I was really young and didn’t have a degree.

I went to a Microsoft conference and would buy a study book each day and take the test there. I did 3 exams during the conference and took the other three when I got home and with all 6 certs got my Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (with a stamp of bill gates’ signature).

They gave me a raise to $60k (and the college grads went from 50-55). I then got $70k six months later and $80k six months after that as I was the “certified person.”

I always thought it was funny that I did the same job before and after the certs. The Networking cert was really useful and I still remember how to do subnets and dns and dhcp and stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

#96
I have been on 40+ courses/training over the span of about 15 years but ever did any exams or certifications. I feel that I DID NOT LOSE ANYTHING not having them. If you like to take exams then you may do it - but if you are about to pay for them from your money then I am not so sure its worth it.

My profile is generally BSD/UNIX/Linux sysadmin with some addons needed in between like storage/virtualization or high availability clusters.

If I got asked why I get to the trainings but did not get certifications I reply that I went for these trainings for learning and knowledge (and eventually things I needed to ask a teacher directly about them) and that was my main interest in them - I do not need a 'proof' that I 'got it and understood it' at the classroom.

Maybe certification is more needed in other areas ...

Regards.

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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I collect a lot of certs for fun, but most have not been helpful. I still like to collect them anyway. I think OSCP was the most legitimately useful in tech https://www.offensive-security.com/pwk-oscp/ PMP has been useful to take on Project Manager roles, but really PrM roles aren't all that exciting to begin with. Still helps when you want to run your own projects. I'm currently studying to be a certified parliament…

Study almond growing to become certifiably nuts.

Study the history of obscure German counties to become certifiably in Sayn!

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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I collect a lot of certs for fun, but most have not been helpful. I still like to collect them anyway. I think OSCP was the most legitimately useful in tech https://www.offensive-security.com/pwk-oscp/ PMP has been useful to take on Project Manager roles, but really PrM roles aren't all that exciting to begin with. Still helps when you want to run your own projects. I'm currently studying to be a certified parliament…

How do you keep up with CPE requirements across all of the carts? Just the CPA cert alone requires a minimum of 40 hours per year.

Many times CPE can count toward multiple certificates. For example the same activity that give hours for PMP also count toward CSM.

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

#99

This will not apply to all companies, but for our hiring decisions certs have an adverse effect. If someone puts many certifications on their resume my expectations are lower and I likely won't consider them for interviews. It's a negative signal in my experience. Your time is better spent working on side projects, contributing to open source, writing a blog, etc. I.e. do real-world stuff instead of wasting time on a…

This is also my experience. However, I would say something like Amazon's certifications may be useful if your company has gone all-in on AWS. Amazon (and GCP and Azure) have such a huge variety of offerings, and it's something that Amazon is asserting this person is at least familiar with what these things are and how they fit together, and the trade-offs. On-the-job study is, in general, not going to be good enough to get a comprehensive understanding like that, and a cert course makes a lot of sense.

I suppose if there was a reasonably trusted organization that could give the same cert for "front-end javascript", that would be good too, since there would be great value in surveying at least the major features of the current js landscape. (Probably not practical given the breadth and depth and dynamism of the space, plus the ambiguity of selection. And also, not sure what org would or could do this!)

Re: Ask HN: Any certification that is worth it? Legitimately helped your career?

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I did a bunch of the Microsoft tracks about 10 years ago, mostly in the hope they’d help me stand out in a crowded field rather than actually get me a job.

It’s impossible for me to know if they ever worked in that regard, but I imagine they probably did at a few different times (subconsciously at least) in terms of getting my resume onto the shortlist, which was the goal.

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