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I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…
It's easy to shut off assholes if you are an even bigger asshole yourself. I shall not point fingers but the the demise of online forums and the meteoric rise of Facebook is a proof. There were certain values that websites in 00-ies had and that were eroded by the likes of Facebook, LinkedIn and yes, even Reddit. I am still operating an old-style online forum that shrank from tens of thousands of users to a dozen occ…
Absence of monetization, to me means its a hobby project funded by you and not a business, that also perhaps means it has not kept up with the competition - think servers, performance, websites, mobile apps etc. Maybe avoiding ad based monetization could be what you are talking about but then you still got to pay the bills some how, so unless you monetize, I don't know how a business would survive. Considering this, I don't think its a surprise that your users are on the decline. Besides, doesn't everyone like to complain about ads online but very few really want to pay for alternative paid services anyway e.g. email, navigation, private messaging etc
It's easy to shut off assholes if you are an even bigger asshole yourself. I shall not point fingers but the the demise of online forums and the meteoric rise of Facebook is a proof. There were certain values that websites in 00-ies had and that were eroded by the likes of Facebook, LinkedIn and yes, even Reddit. I am still operating an old-style online forum that shrank from tens of thousands of users to a dozen occ…
Is "absence of monetization" a value? Do we expect this with any other business other than the ones on the internet - news papers, magazines, local community events etc. Absence of monetization, to me means its a hobby project funded by you and not a business, that also perhaps means it has not kept up with the competition - think servers, performance, websites, mobile apps etc. Maybe avoiding ad based monetization c…
Aside from that, not everything needs to be a business, and even then, not everything needs to be profitable.
It's easy to shut off assholes if you are an even bigger asshole yourself. I shall not point fingers but the the demise of online forums and the meteoric rise of Facebook is a proof. There were certain values that websites in 00-ies had and that were eroded by the likes of Facebook, LinkedIn and yes, even Reddit. I am still operating an old-style online forum that shrank from tens of thousands of users to a dozen occ…
Is "absence of monetization" a value? Do we expect this with any other business other than the ones on the internet - news papers, magazines, local community events etc. Absence of monetization, to me means its a hobby project funded by you and not a business, that also perhaps means it has not kept up with the competition - think servers, performance, websites, mobile apps etc. Maybe avoiding ad based monetization c…
If capitalism is a value, then anti-capitalism is also a value. A lot of people believe the presence of capitalism on the web is fundamentally antithetical to what they see as its fundamentally anarchist/anti-establishment ethos.
Besides, the cost per month of running a small forum nowadays is less than what many people here spend on a single lunch. Not everyone is running a business or a startup.
I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…
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I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…
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Since you run it, why not change the core values?
The core values would be the entire benefit to the form of communication. The massive decline in classic forums has been a net negative for the Internet. The 2000s forum culture was a lot different from the current state of things, and better in many ways. You didn't have the level of de facto censorship that you see now with the massive centralized communication platforms.
I disagree. Not every forum was SA or 4chan, plenty were aggressively moderated. The primary difference between then and now that I see is that, back then, moderation wasn't always considered censorship.
It's easy to shut off assholes if you are an even bigger asshole yourself. I shall not point fingers but the the demise of online forums and the meteoric rise of Facebook is a proof. There were certain values that websites in 00-ies had and that were eroded by the likes of Facebook, LinkedIn and yes, even Reddit. I am still operating an old-style online forum that shrank from tens of thousands of users to a dozen occ…
You’ll hear a lot of people complain about it and never register over the $10. I paid my $10 once almost 20 years ago and never got banned. That was the best $10 I have ever spent.