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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by unmole »

jimkleiber wrote: post #145
unmole wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, corporations act in their rational self interest. Sure, industry specific regulation and abortion access are both political . But conflating them is not particularly useful.

I suppose industry specific regulation may be more direct, but if a company has a majority of employees who strongly believe in a specific social issue, such as abortion access, then couldn't it also be in the company's interest to lobby for that specific issue?

How did that work out for Disney?

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Post by imdan »

anon9001 wrote: post #130

This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.

We're headed to a dark place.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by 31835843 »

RaymondDeWitt wrote: post #148

Does this policy apply only to women?

>To support Googlers and their dependents, our US benefits plan and health insurance covers out-of-state medical procedures that are not available where an employee lives and works. Googlers can also apply for relocation without justification, and those overseeing this process will be aware of the situation. If you need additional support, please connect 1:1 with a People Consultant via [link to internal tool redacted].

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by roenxi »

Frankly, this is a good stance but doesn't go far enough. Google should have a policy encouraging every employee to relocate to the area they feel most appeals to their values, lifestyle and beliefs.

Abortion is an important issue but hardly the only one.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by abernard1 »

minhazm wrote: post #159
abernard1 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I, having seen Austin, TX grow from a laughingstock to an industry powerhouse, find your points humorous. There is a very big elephant in the room for where people are moving. And those people are young. And those people do not have the belief monoculture that has existed prior. Smaller elephant in the room #2 is that cost pressures and globalism don't care about the opinions of the traditional PMC that has reign…

Take a look at the voting numbers for Austin, TX. It's overwhelmingly democrat. 71% of Travis County votes were for Joe Biden[1]. The people moving to Austin are no different from the people that moved to San Francisco or Seattle in the first place. [1] https://countyclerk.traviscountytx.gov/wp-content/uploads/el...

Dude, you do not understand Texas Democrats. And Texas Democrats do not understand you.

If they did, frankly, they would not vote the way they do. There is a type of cultural elitism, and a freeness that Austin voters have that is not indicative of the SF or Seattle voters. People who have been there any appreciable amount of time understand how much Austin leftists actually dislike the imports.

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Post by narrator »

The migration pattern in the nation seems to be:

1. Going to your super cool tech job in California when you get out of college.

2. After that, you get older and want to buy a house and settle down, and not pay state income tax, and so you move out to a red state to work remote and turn it blue with all the love of diversity picked up in California.

Strict abortion laws might serve as somewhat of a barrier to this sort of cultural re-diffusion.

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Post by rybosome »

imdan wrote: post #172
anon9001 wrote: post #130

This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.

We're headed to a dark place.

It’s happening. I think it’s going to get way worse than most people believe.

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Post by bcrosby95 »

galangalalgol wrote: post #140
bobsil1 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad latitude for climate change too

Latitude doesn't help so much, you need altitude, or oceanfront and hope the currents dont shift and you are above the new high water mark. And when the refugees arrive your deed won't count for much, but at least you won't be a refugee.

I think they mean the weather more than the sea level rise - Austin's elevation is 500 feet.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by imgabe »

mch82 wrote: post #164
imgabe wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean examples of laws . Like is there any state that has passed or even proposed a law saying "contraception is illegal". To my knowledge, there's not.

Here you go: https://www.findlaw.com/family/reproductive-rights/griswold-... > At the time, a Connecticut law prohibited the use of "any drug, medicinal article or instrument for the purpose of preventing conception" and punished anyone who "assists, abets, counsels, causes, hires or commands another" to do so (in other words, it wasn't a crime to sell birth control devices, but it was a crime to use birth control or…

The "at the time" was 1965. Contraception was new and controversial 50 years ago. It's not anymore and is widely supported. Is there any current law or proposal to outlaw contraception? Such a law would be wildly unpopular, even among most pro-life people.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by whateveracct »

Brian-Puccio wrote: post #150
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or Congress could just pass a law.

Obama in 2007: first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act, essentially codifying Roe Obama in 2009 (the same year he had a supermajority in the legislature): eh, that’s not so important I have zero faith in Democrats in Congress to actually do this and all of the Republicans in Congress are vocally (or tacitly) opposed to it. Clinton’s VP pick was an anti-choice Democrat. I doubt there will be…

Calling what Obama had a "supermajority" is revisionist history. At best, it was like 20 working days of exactly 60 votes (e.g. due to the Al Frank stuff). If even one Dem didn't go along with it (which for a somewhat nuanced issue like abortion back in 2009 - definitely a possibility) even then it wasn't possible.

So acting like there was some all-powerful supermajority is ignorant at best, misinformation at worst.

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