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Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade
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#952I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…
Where you see delegating to the states, I see a minority (less than 30% of Americans agree with this) enforcing social views on the majority- and it will not stop here. Other things the Supreme Court has blocked state law using the same logic as roe v Wade (due process of the 14th amendment[0]) on are blocking contraception bans (grisewald), overturning anti-sodomy laws (lawrence), and giving equal protection to gay…
while less than 30% support it, I wouldn't be surprised if the share of that 30% vote more than the other 70%. remember something like only 35% of eligible adults vote in midterm election. apathy toward our civic duty is killing our country just as much as radical polarization.
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#953Separate abortion from Roe v. Wade. The big challenge has been that Roe v. Wade was horribly decided. Even RBG thought so. Roe v wade gave the Supreme Court the right to make law without reference to any text in the constitution. Casey tried to change the justification but it still was a disaster. Sadly it is far from the only time the Supreme Court has made things up out of whole cloth that has had massive societal…
Roe V. Wade has decades of precedent. Even if the ruling was "horribly decided," this is not a good look for the legitimacy of the court. Especially at a time when the country is more polarized than ever. This is just horribly timed and will further split this country apart. This will be our century's dredd scott - the court "thought" this would settle the issue. But it won't: "Although Taney and several other justic…
But if you’re making a decision based on what will make people happy, isn’t that just politics?
Your point is well made - this is going to be catastrophic for our country. No good can come if it. But it can’t be the position of the court to do what’s expedient over what is constitutionally correct. Or should it be? What does it profit a country to uphold the constitution and lose its democracy.
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#954I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…
While I personally have strong pro-choice views I think this was correctly decided for the reasons you state. Abortion is a case where there is genuine disagreement among the public and at its core exists a genuine moral question. Most partisans talk past each other, but the core of it is about the rights of the unborn and at which point that becomes relevant. It's different because of this from gay rights and contra…
> Abortion is a case where there is genuine disagreement among the public and at its core exists a genuine moral question.
That is not true, at all. It is a small minority that want abortion to be illegal. And of course it's a moral question. What isn't? Quit legitimatizing these minority political groups, as if they have ever considered a moral position in their life or can even describe what morality is.
The U.S. is not a democracy by definition, and certainly not one in practice. The problem with people hiding behind this as a "democratic process decision" is that that they are ignoring the fact that the Republicans absolutely refuse to participate in democratic proceedings and work to pass a law in Congress giving people the rights they deserve. Republicans, with the support of a minority in this country, are holding the U.S. hostage. What's insane, is that the Republicans make life harder for this very minority and blame it on everyone else.
Abortion is actually not a complex issue. It is a tough issue but not a complex issue.
The U.S. is reaching Middle East versions of extremism.
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#955I`m not american, but lets be honest. Is not a constitution right because is not in the constitution. States can now do their onw diligence about the subject. So it`s not the end of the word for pro-choise people.
See you in ~2.5 years when the Republican president signs a federal abortion ban.
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#956So, is it possible to make a US 2.0 without civil war?
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#957Kinda feels like a bit of a “bail out” signal to me. Even if the Democrats somehow get their act together enough to legalize abortion it’s going to take a long time.
On this tech focused forum people have portable skills in high demand. As WFH continues to be normalized there’s probably more opportunities than ever to work for US companies from elsewhere. You can move to Canada and you’ll be in the top 5% of earners easily.
You can still vote in us elections and donate to help turn things around, but in the meantime set yourself and your ancestors up for better success elsewhere in case things don’t.
There’s no real downside aside from forgoing the absurdly high wages of Silicon Valley, but you’d still be highly paid.
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#958I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…
> But, the Supreme Court should not be responsible for managing dysfunction in other branches of govt.
This is the only statement in your take that I disagree with. In the checks and balances system, the supreme court is exactly supposed to protect the balance between federal, state, and individual rights.
One consistent court might have protected gun rights and abortion rights this week. Another might have permitted restrictions on both. Instead we got gun rights and body control. The apolitical ship has sailed.
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#959erections have consequences
Dang, I thought it was funny.
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#960I never expect this will happen in US history...