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Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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Long story short, nothing to do with your actual business or business model or innovative technology or hand-wavy "disruption" or large addressable market size or traction or any of the other things that VCs tell the plebs matter, when in reality they only matter if you don't have anything more valuable like the above. This is how companies raise ludicrous amounts of money without ever finding product-market fit, bec…

> nothing to do with your actual business or business model or innovative technology or hand-wavy "disruption" or large addressable market size or traction I would take out "traction" from this. If a company has strong traction (that looks sustainable) it will outweigh everything else.

It's hard to prove counter-examples of companies that have had significant traction but were unable to raise money, because, well they were unable to raise money. The only alternatives are those companies who have had large amounts of traction, were unable to raise money, but ended up being successful anyways by bootstrapping or finding some alternate method. But it's not generally / necessarily true that companies that have strong, sustainable traction will outweigh everything else because the counter-examples are just not obvious. Intuitively, I can imagine that there have indeed been companies that have had great / strong traction, but have no Ivy League management team, no VC connections, no real family strength, no past history of success, and none of the other things that were described above, and thus, despite their strong traction, they were unable to raise money.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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Be or have a co-founder with: - an affiliation with an ivy league school - a prior notable technology or business contribution, such as authoring a protocol (or more recently an open source project) - some unusual circumstance such as family relationships that causes VC partners to care more about them than a random person - be obviously independently wealthy already - have been a founder or high level employee invol…

I’m a college student @ an Ivy League school, and I keep hearing about how easy it is to take advantage of the name for VC money. I really don’t get how. Are there any actionable steps you could point me towards, other than getting involved with the school incubator? I’d love to learn more.

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Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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This is an ideal time to raise seed money. Many funds have moved heavily down market away from the big Series B/C's of 2020/2021. You now have a lot of tourists at the seed stage who are obligated to deploy capital and even if it is at 10-20% of the previous rate, that's still five $2M seed rounds for every $50-100M series B/C that used to get done. You won't get a killer valuation like 2020/2021, but you will have p…

> Raise as much money as you can. In 2021, this was terrible advice.

How so? If you raised a ton of cash in 2021, you should better equipped to ride out any economic downturn than nearly any other business in existence. Most businesses do not have millions of dollars in cash in a bank account. Sure, your valuation might be bonkers, but that's better than being kicked to the curb, and inflation will probably dampen the blow anyways.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homechart, the all-in-one household data management solution. Keep your household in sync and have all of your household data in one simple app. https://homechart.app . Right now it's at this awkward stage where it doesn't make enough for it to be my full time job and I don't have the skills/budget to market it effectively. It keeps growing month over month via organic search traffic though, so I must be doing someth…

(Assuming you would want it to be your full-time job if it could get there): how close is it to making enough for it to be your full-time job? If it's profitable, one way to look at it is that you have an unbounded timeline for learning/figuring out the marketing to grow it. You don't necessarily need to raise a VC round for it.

Indeed, the problem I run into with marketing in general is building a brand is _expensive_. Either you spend a lot of money or a lot of time to build a brand, neither of which I have an excess amount of at the moment. So I'm trying to split the difference by having a marketing firm help me build the brand while I continue building the product.

Ideally I'd have a co-founder or something to take care of this part of the business, fingers crossed that I find someone at startup school speed dating tomorrow!

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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Depends on what the startup is about. If you're in the business of hardware, biotech etc. that _requires_ an initial investment, just don't. Particularly if you're building SaaS, I'd seriously consider bootstrapping. Just build your MVP yourself, possibly with a couple co-founders if you need help on the tech/business side. Then validate the hell out of it. This way you will both prime yourself strongly for success, avoid unnecessary dilution and come out stronger with truly useful skills, without relying on a whim of VC bullshit.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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This is obvious, but please consider applying to YC—if accepted, it will not only give you initial funding, but increase your chance of obtaining further funding, even in a down market. https://apply.ycombinator.com/ Less obvious, so worth adding: if you don't get accepted, keep applying for future batches. Repeat applications are more likely to get funded. The main thing is to demonstrate progress since the last tim…

How often are the YC application cycles? I’m about to leave my job to work on a fashion startup with my husband. There are some technical aspects to the business that I am building into products, but my immediate focus is to get his clothing store online. I know the product(s) I want to build will be compelling, but my concern is not having enough cash to hire a small team. At what point is it best to apply? After yo…

You might consider pitching to https://amplify.la

They are based in Los Angeles and I believe have had a few successful fashion startups. LA being a global fashion hub probably doesn't hurt.

I have had experience with Amplify in the past and they were always helpful and not too pushy.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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I can't help thinking that one of the long-term utility applications for DAO's is to present additional avenues to projects entering seed stage especially now as funding drops. They may be a tangled mess of experimental trials and error in the present state with rug pullers and crypto maximalists crowding out other voices -- but as a way to harness the power of a user community to both generate and participate in value using a project coin/token without outside influence -- when looked at this way then using a DAO model for bootstrapping could offer projects a nontraditional way through the downturn while sharing the risk with a community who believe the risk is worth taking.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise a seed round in a down market?

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post #21

This is an ideal time to raise seed money. Many funds have moved heavily down market away from the big Series B/C's of 2020/2021. You now have a lot of tourists at the seed stage who are obligated to deploy capital and even if it is at 10-20% of the previous rate, that's still five $2M seed rounds for every $50-100M series B/C that used to get done. You won't get a killer valuation like 2020/2021, but you will have p…

> Raise as much money as you can. In 2021, this was terrible advice. How so? If you raised a ton of cash in 2021, you should better equipped to ride out any economic downturn than nearly any other business in existence. Most businesses do not have millions of dollars in cash in a bank account. Sure, your valuation might be bonkers, but that's better than being kicked to the curb, and inflation will probably dampen th…

> If you raised a ton of cash in 2021, you should better equipped to ride out any economic downturn than nearly any other business in existence.

This analysis benefits from hindsight.

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