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At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually doesn't apply to Bored Apes. With those NFTs you get copyright ownership of the image.

No, with copyright law you get ownership, the nft is just a public receipt

Remember the case of the crypto guys who bought a physical copy of Dune worth $40,000 for $3 million and thought that gave them the rights to make an animated series out of it? Good times. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a38815538/dune-c...

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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Reminds me of a time that I played a Bitcoin poker game at some Google VP's place up in the hills with Charlie Lee and a few other early crypto luminaries in 2014. It took us over an hour to figure out sending BTC to the "buy-in" pot because most of us had 2FA enabled on our Coinbase accounts and the cell reception was so bad at that we couldn't get our confirmation texts. We ended up writing IOUs on a sheet of paper…

That's more on simply poor cell service if anything at all though no? The tech even then seemingly worked for you then. Your anecdotal is comparable to saying students at a college not being able to add one another on Facebook in it's early days, because the campus Wi-Fi was on the fritz.

Except that… you don’t need to use Facebook to hypothetically buy food or goods or services…

Facebook isn’t an appropriate analog to what BTC/crypto aims to be.

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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Reminds me of a time that I played a Bitcoin poker game at some Google VP's place up in the hills with Charlie Lee and a few other early crypto luminaries in 2014. It took us over an hour to figure out sending BTC to the "buy-in" pot because most of us had 2FA enabled on our Coinbase accounts and the cell reception was so bad at that we couldn't get our confirmation texts. We ended up writing IOUs on a sheet of paper…

the first man to ever build and sell a car, recounting his critics in the transportation industry: “There’s nothing the matter with me. It’s you! You’re crazy if you think this fool contraption you’ve been wasting your time on will ever displace the horse.”

Ahh the classic “people were wrong once about a technology, therefore all potential technologies are good.”

So if I found a quote about someone saying nuclear energy would power cars…would that disprove crypto? I guess so

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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Nobody could see this coming! Lol Seriously, crypto has yet to solve any real world problems I’ve faced. And NFTs are just the worst. Money laundering schemes at best. If I can’t buy an apple easily with crypto, it’s useless.

Crypto does solve a few real world issues (fast, global, cheap, secure, anonymized transfer of value). But it seems that some people thought it fixes the "i want to get rich fast" problem, and was bloated as a result. It was never meant for that problem.

With the first big boom, weren’t wallet companies (which most people seem to need to make things easy enough) requiring photo IDs to open accounts? That kids the anonymized piece and once that’s gone the traditional means were already fast and cheap (and I assume global as well).

I think the idea of digital cash is cool, but practically speaking, it isn’t enough of a upside to deal with crypto. I can’t even tell you the last time I used actual cash. It was at least a year ago.

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto does solve a few real world issues (fast, global, cheap, secure, anonymized transfer of value). But it seems that some people thought it fixes the "i want to get rich fast" problem, and was bloated as a result. It was never meant for that problem.

No realistic takes on crypto allowed on HN, you might get banned.

Can you explain why you think it's realistic? Nothing they claim seems to hold much truth in-practice.

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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I dislike crypto, especially NFTs. But here's my best attempt at understanding. BAYC transfers ownership of IP for the ape you've bought. It's not just a picture of the ape on OpenSean; you can use it. There's something really fascinating about this. It's one character, but it's also broadly part of the larger ecosystem. We're so used to, say, Disney owning IP. But what if you could spend $300k and have a restaurant…

But you can already license your IP using a contract or a license, and that contract can be inked in paper or done digitally. You can even give exclusive license or transfer your rights. The only difference using the blockchain is, well, the blockchain. This is an even less interesting use of the blockchain than Bitcoin - at least with Bitcoin there is no longer a central authority needed to prevent double spending.…

I don't care about bored apes or jpeg nfts in general, and don't know how true it is that you receive ownership of the ip.

But if it worked that way, then the concept is pretty cool. You say "you can already license..." yeah, but this is one click stuff and you're good to go. What you're saying is slow lawyer stuff and a fully manual process.

Of course this one click to purchase IP could be done centralized. But decentralized can add transparency, instead of relying on paper trail and companies that can go defunct.

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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post #53

Reminds me of a time that I played a Bitcoin poker game at some Google VP's place up in the hills with Charlie Lee and a few other early crypto luminaries in 2014. It took us over an hour to figure out sending BTC to the "buy-in" pot because most of us had 2FA enabled on our Coinbase accounts and the cell reception was so bad at that we couldn't get our confirmation texts. We ended up writing IOUs on a sheet of paper…

Google VP doesn’t have decent Wifi?

Re: At the Bored Ape restaurant, your ApeCoin is no good now

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> “Yes, ethereum is a currency in a way where you can exchange [non-fungible tokens, or] NFTs and stuff … but as far as buying food and all that, maybe not,” one crypto-enthusiast diner, Marc Coloma, said as he munched on fries outside the restaurant. “People want to hold onto their ethereum. They’re not gonna want to use it.” Then what is the point then? Apecoin and Ethereum certainly cannot be used for payments and…

It didn't take a crypto crash, crypto has been a failed currency since BTC hit a dollar... Extreme deflation is arguably more deadly than hyperinflation. If you know that by holding a dollar today, you can get 2 dollars worth of goods tomorrow, why are you going to spend a dollar? Likewise, once Bitcoin went from fractions of a penny to a dollar, what incentive was left to spend it? You could argue an ideological wan…

> If you know that by holding a dollar today, you can get 2 dollars worth of goods tomorrow, why are you going to spend a dollar?

Does that mean if you can find a non-defaulting bond that pays higher interest than inflation, the US dollar will completely collapse?

Because why would anyone spend $1 when they could get $2 of goods in N years...

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