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Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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Tip for savvy EU-based employers: you can save yourselves a lot of work when hiring US nationals that don't quite meet the European Work Visa requirements, by requesting a humanitarian visa for candidates that live in Florida and such instead. Abortion restrictions and associated death penalty pretty much make that a no-brainer.

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Everyone is acting like this banned abortion, which it didn't. It is up to the state you live in. If you don't like the state's laws, then move. If you don't want to move, then when you get pregnant, go to a state where it is legal. American's cannot be inconvenienced. These 1st world problems are terrible.

A 2020 study showed that nearly 70% of Americans have less than $1,000 stashed away in their bank accounts. 40% have less than $300. How are these people supposed to afford to take time off work, drive to another state, have an invasive medical procedure performed, and then drive back home and potentially miss another day of work for recovery? If they have difficulty doing that, imagine how much more difficult it'd be to literally move to another state, lose all your friends and family connections, displace your kids from their school and friends, lose your support network, and have to find new employment? All for the sake of something that should be a protected right. Your perspective is really lacking compassion.

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Looking at this ruling and the one a few days ago on arms - could someone explain to me why they're wrong legally? FYI I'm not American and personally am in favour of legalised abortion + severe gun restrictions. My understanding is these rulings are both based on the constitution. The one on guns seems really straightforward: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of th…

>Regarding abortion, what aspect of the constitution would cover it?

None. Roe was based on pure vapor, constitutionally speaking.

>You should be able to trust a court to make a decision based on the law, not their personal preferences.

That is in fact what the Supreme Court has just done, by overturning Roe.

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This is the final chapter of a decade-long saga which basically boils down to the Republicans obtaining votes from Evangelicals and other Christian denominations in order to give them what they wanted. In exchange for that, they would use their power to cut taxes, regulations and let the riches become richer and richer at the expense of everyone else. I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and…

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I'm pro-choice but I still believe that this is the right move. > “My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.…

Could you explain this a bit more please? (I'm not from the US so I'm possibly missing something but your comment is surprising at a broad strokes level) Edit: I see you've edited your post already with a quote which is helpful.

The original Roe v Wade ruling, regardless of opinion on the outcome, was widely viewed as being based on a weak and poorly reasoned judicial argument. The risk of leaving defective judicial reasoning as precedent is that it enables a whole class of undesirable legal outcomes in the future unrelated to abortion. For this reason, it was expected that the Supreme Court would eventually fix this mistake. This ruling doesn't outlaw abortion, it merely moves it outside that court's jurisdiction and leaves it to other parts of government to decide.

I support this ruling for this reason even though I am against outlawing abortion.

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Looking at this ruling and the one a few days ago on arms - could someone explain to me why they're wrong legally? FYI I'm not American and personally am in favour of legalised abortion + severe gun restrictions. My understanding is these rulings are both based on the constitution. The one on guns seems really straightforward: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of th…

> ""A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I think was this was meant to mean was: Any citizen has the right to join their local/state militia, and keep their service rifle and uniform with them at home.

That isn't what was found by DC v Heller.

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This is the final chapter of a decade-long saga which basically boils down to the Republicans obtaining votes from Evangelicals and other Christian denominations in order to give them what they wanted. In exchange for that, they would use their power to cut taxes, regulations and let the riches become richer and richer at the expense of everyone else. I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and…

Christianity’s true face has been shown. I’ve rarely seen it to have anything to do with the teachings of Christ.

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