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Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#91

I’m surprised there’s been no call for a general strike. I think we would have seen one had Trump successfully illegally seized power and when the draft opinion leaked I was expecting rumblings of the idea of a general strike to start.

I would thoroughly support a general strike.

I would both participate, and donate to strike support funds.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#92
Not just abortion. The Roe v. Wade established certain rights to privacy.

Overturning Roe v. Wade opens the door for banning contraception, banning interracial relationships, messing with family relationships, right to intimacy, the right to personal control of medical treatment.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#93

(edited) It's not like you had any more urgent issues than this? That move greatly reinforces Galkovsky's position that USA is now a Latin American country not unlike Brazil; and indeed, Latin American countries also deeply care about this (non)issue and have abortion laws inappropriate to their general level of economical and human development. The problem being, at least Brazil recognizes that it is Brazil and know…

It's a simple vote exchange, you know. People got triggered badly by Roe and "liberal" rulings that actually enshrined the right of women to have a sexual life and control their own life, so they made a pact with the Republicans to overturn it. In exchange for that, the Republicans had a free hand to cut taxes to rich people and ensure that poor people stayed poor.

That's so many read flags in one place that it resembles May 1st on the Red Square.

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"In a solo concurring opinion, Thomas says the court should reconsider rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage." https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1540338064324698112

The Supreme Court positions to be elected positions. None of this is the will of the people.

As I understand it, at any point where the Democrats held the majority of the legislature (including now) they could have passed federal abortion legislation and this would be moot.

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#95
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There's this belief that society always moves in a "forward/upward" directory, where we become more advanced, more enlightened and more moral. But this is not the case and sometimes we regress.

A contrarian argument would say that protecting life - especially young life - is a more enlightened and moral direction.

I am fine with this contrarian argument, but why does it stop at birth? There’s no support (universal healthcare for children, paid maternity/paternity leave, etc etc). Conservatives apply these arguments inconsistently.

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#96

I`m not american, but lets be honest. Is not a constitution right because is not in the constitution. States can now do their onw diligence about the subject. So it`s not the end of the word for pro-choise people.

It's actually written in the Constitution that we as Americans enjoy many rights that aren't explicitly written in the text. It's in the 9th amendment and 14th amendment due process clause.

The 14th, to me, encompasses everything that it means to be American: self-autonomy. The right to marry outside our race, the right to choose our sexual partner, the right to birth control are established in the due process clause.

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#97
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This is the final chapter of a decade-long saga which basically boils down to the Republicans obtaining votes from Evangelicals and other Christian denominations in order to give them what they wanted. In exchange for that, they would use their power to cut taxes, regulations and let the riches become richer and richer at the expense of everyone else. I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and…

> I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and I'd like to remind them that, while Jesus Christ never gave to abortion the slightest mention, he was quite vocal about the fact that greed was not compatible with salvation. I'd like to see Evangelicals and other Christians being as vocal for social justice as they were for abortions and same sex marriage, but I guess they do care more about puttin…

What enabled this is large populations who voted republican purely for this cause due to religious reasons.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#98

I`m not american, but lets be honest. Is not a constitution right because is not in the constitution. States can now do their onw diligence about the subject. So it`s not the end of the word for pro-choise people.

It's not the end of pro-choice nor is it the right-wing victory that people think it is.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#99
I'm tired of having the minority religious and bigoted views dominate politics and starve us of progress. Regardless of what the "right" ruling is on the law, or the roles of the different branches of government, the practical impact of this ruling is millions of Americans denied the right to healthcare while simultaneously being denied free access to any democratic process to secure it.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#100
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"In a solo concurring opinion, Thomas says the court should reconsider rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage." https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1540338064324698112

These are next up on the chopping block and the same logic used to overturn Roe v Wade can be used to overturn those. Thomas is merely voicing that reality instead of playing coy like other reactionary justices.

Yeah, better hurry up while the conservatives still have the overwhelming majority on the court. You never know what the future brings...
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