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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

blowski wrote: post #218
marginalia_nu wrote: post #200

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I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.

This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

>computer games 12 hours a day

I've heard professors say something to the effect of "students a decade or two ago used to be more productive". I don't have trouble believing that; so would I (I think) without the potency of modern entertainment. It's harder to do stuff while eating such good electric lotuses. :p

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Post by akhmatova »

pmoriarty wrote: post #565
akhmatova wrote: post #530

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Lovely? Based on what it's doing to your lungs and circulatory system, I'd put it more in the "it rocks, until it doesn't" category.

You don't have to smoke cannabis to use it. You could eat or drink it, which does nothing to your lungs, afaik.

As is widely known. It's also the decidedly less popular route of intake.

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Post by autoexec »

slenk wrote: post #461
linuxftw wrote: post #217

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Or, if you don't want to install sketchy plugins in your browser, as soon as the page loads in a new tab, switch to it and press ctrl+p, you'll can create a PDF and read the page without the block or the ads.

Code is open source, you can decide if it's sketchy or not. It's not BTW, its been around for a bit

Seems like it is infested with Google trackers at the very least.

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Post by autoexec »

walleeee wrote: post #421
blowski wrote: post #218

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This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

phones are on a different level than fiction or radio or arguably even cannabis imo you can do something else while you listen to the radio or smoke pot (e.g., clean your house, hang out with friends or family, with weed you can even read or program) phones and books both consume your attention, but a book at least demands a bit of effort to follow and might introduce you to new ideas or vocabulary, even if you're re…

If we're going to credit books with potentially expanding your vocabulary, we should at least acknowledge that while you can mindlessly scroll through insta and tiktok you can also be consuming thoughtful and educational content. Even tiktok which doesn't exactly lend itself to useful content has some great stuff.

Books, TV, the internet, cell phones all have the potential to benefit you. They often don't, but it's not the medium that's the problem, it's our own choices - except the spying on you bit. That's 100% a problem with TV, the internet, cell phones and now even books.

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Post by rtp4me »

gowld wrote: post #454
rtp4me wrote: post #441

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Because at some point, the $9.50/hr job at Taco Bell will run its course, and your child will end up with severely limited resources. Together with a lack of funding and poor health care options, your children will probably return back home to "evaluate their situation". At that point, they will start wondering why they have been left behind in society, why the system is rigged against them, etc. As we all know (and…

Why would you want someone to never learn that the system is rigged against them? So they blame themselves for their oppression? Millions of people will never rise above minmim wage jobs. Why fix that for one person ,and not for all? A Taco Bell worker probably has more free energy and intrest for tackling big problems like protesting against the oligarchs.

Because they are not oppressed and the system is not rigged against them (at least in the US). Each person has plenty of opportunity to do better. It's all about choice. You can choose to stay with your low-paying job or put some effort into getting educated and move up. The key here is "effort".

And, the comment that millions of people will never rise above minimum wage jobs is laughable. With the amount of free/low-cost education (community college, free on-line classes, military GI Bill), and the huge shortage of skilled trade workers [0], anyone in the US can do better than minimum wage. It just takes effort.

[0] https://resources.skillwork.com/why-is-there-a-shortage-of-s...

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Post by autoexec »

vineyardmike wrote: post #559
palmetieri2000 wrote: post #543

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Absolutely, and you should be paid enough to properly take care of yourself while you have those positions.

So I absolutely agree with your opinion, and I think everyone should be paid a livable wage and should be able to live a meaningful life off their work pay. That said, I think the argument of “stepping stone” job salaries is less crazy in the context of people who are dépendants of other adults. If you’re a teen and you live with parents who provide food and housing and basics like that, you’re needs from the wages a…

> I don’t know if it’s even possible to protect the adults in “low skill” jobs without making it hard to have “stupid summer part time jobs” for teens.

Why not just limit some jobs or minimum wages to teens who can demonstrate that they're already financially supported? Most people earning minimum wage are adults, but we could require companies to pay adults or teens supporting themselves higher wages. We could also set age limits on certain types of work, but then you run the risk of not having enough kids looking for work with everything else they've got going on.

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Post by nradov »

walleeee wrote: post #421
blowski wrote: post #218

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This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

phones are on a different level than fiction or radio or arguably even cannabis imo you can do something else while you listen to the radio or smoke pot (e.g., clean your house, hang out with friends or family, with weed you can even read or program) phones and books both consume your attention, but a book at least demands a bit of effort to follow and might introduce you to new ideas or vocabulary, even if you're re…

I use my phone to listen to podcasts and audio books while I exercise.

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Post by autoexec »

Miraste wrote: post #438
Taywee wrote: post #378

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I'd be proud of it, if they were a good person, took care of themselves, took care of the people around them, and were truly happy in their lives. Some people are perfectly happy working low-level positions in restaurants, sanitation, retail, and the like for their lives, and maybe maintaining a few hobbies and relationships that give them personal meaning off their work hours. It's only a problem if they aren't actu…

> I'd be proud of it, if they were a good person, took care of themselves, took care of the people around them, and were truly happy in their lives I'd be happy for them. I wouldn't be proud . An infinite amount of possible achievements is no excuse not to strive for anything.

> An infinite amount of possible achievements is no excuse not to strive for anything.

If they're striving for happiness and they are happy, mission accomplished right? I assume they'd still have their own goals and hobbies outside of work or things which bring in money. Why assume those things don't matter?

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Post by nradov »

RajT88 wrote: post #240
blowski wrote: post #218

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This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

As a (mostly former) distance runner. Running endless marathons is most certainly not harmless. You will face eventually injuries which affect you for the rest of your life.

There's distance and then there's distance. You can be a serious endurance athlete but focus on shorter races, with judicious use of low-impact cross training to reduce the risk of injuries while still building an aerobic base.
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