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Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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I've heard about Plausible but haven't tried it yet. We are using Posthog which is a suite for product analytics.

Plausible et al all are a pale imitation of GA. They all offer a dashboard with some basic filtering. But they offer little in the way of true analytics features, that allow you to slice, dice, and compare data.

Which is a good thing!

Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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Another decision in a long stream that will make it much harder for EU start-ups companies to catch up to American ones. With absolutely no improvements to actual EU citizen well being.

Isn't this an opportunity for EU startups? By choosing to enforce the law on US companies that EU companies are already generally very compliant with, surely the EU has levelled the playing field for EU companies?

I can already see the taglines: "ConsentCo, tracking that's legal in the EU, unlike Google Analytics"

Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…

Pragmatically, to what extent do you believe the European laws have protected Europeans above and beyond how American laws have protected Americans? Basically, what class of badness are Americans subjected to due to behind-the-times data protection laws, that Europeans are protected from?

Have you heard of Robo-calls? Basically there are no Robo-calls in EU, because you can just add yourself to a Government no-call list. If any company doesn’t respect that, they get a huge fine.

Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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Italy is the 4th in a string of recent decisions across the EU. (We're tracking these cases on isgoogleanalyticsillegal.com along with details for each.) Note that it's not illegal to use GA entirely, just illegal to use in its default state which transmits PII to the US.

Isn't it already against Google Analytics' policy to put PII in the platform to begin with? https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/6366371?hl=en#zi...

Gdpr uses a more expansive definition of personal data, and it includes the IP address and geolocation data, for example.

Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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The average large organization uses over 100 SaaS products https://www.statista.com/statistics/1233538/average-number-s... I would love to see you replace all 100 of those with open source software. Have you ever dealt with large technology migrations?

not sure that it's relevant and 'large' is subjective, but yes, i stewarded the technology migration of a core product suite for a prior employer, which incidentally had government agencies as a prominent customer segment. i'm not suggesting that governments can only use internally developed or open-source software, i'm saying corporate interests should be firewalled away from goverment. so a locally-installed office…

You migrated a product. Were you involved in migrating the entire infrastructure of an entire state?

Yes, I speak from experience, migrations and modernizations are kind of my job.

Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

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This is just naive. Government offices/agencies are so tightly coupled with packages like office 365 that forcefully separating them would require home built solutions which would always be terrible, less secure, and more expensive to the tax payer. There’s a lot of good these products can provide, granted they are properly audited and have high security requirements.

> are so tightly coupled with packages like office 365 Are they though? Do you know this for a fact? I mean, sure, MS Office is very popular in government settings, but does this really go beyond the possibility of just replacing it with LibreOffice if they so decided?

Sharing a link to a document that others can edit in the cloud is much more convenient than emailing around a _final_v3(2).docx document.
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