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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by pessimizer » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:22 PM UTC

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #412

ineptech wrote: post #342

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Yeah, I'm calling BS. 1) That line has been trotted out continuously because weed potency has been going up continuously. In the late 90s, good weed was anything above 4-5% THC; the store near my house currently has nothing below 23%. For your beer/liquor analogy to work, you'd have to live somewhere where the bottle shop only sells triple IPAs and fortified wine, and Coors is in the soft drink section. 2) I don't be…

Adjusted consumption is interesting. Kids get their stomachs pumped from alcohol poisoning all the time. Hardly ever is it from beer. It's almost always from liquor. Drugs have a delayed response. You won't adjust until you start responding - which can be too late.

That's a special case. The sheer volume of beer that it requires to give you alcohol poisoning is often larger than your stomach. If you're drinking a "lite" beer, you're drinking slightly piss-flavored water.

There are no volume issues with pot. You can smoke an enormous amount of weak pot or a tiny amount of strong pot, and it will take up exactly the same amount of space in your lungs: none, unless you forget to exhale.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by 2-718-281-828 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

swatcoder wrote: post #418

monktastic1 wrote: post #386

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Everyone is focusing on whether being content with working at Taco Bell is sufficient in life, but I think the more interesting question is whether they truly are content. That's not for me to answer, but if the South Park quote has any truth (and I think it has more than a little), in 50 years' time, they themselves might not be happy with how things went in retrospect. In that case, it's possible they weren't reall…

> in 50 years' time, they themselves might not be happy with how things went in retrospect There are moments in later life where everyone feels that way. Statistically, some paths might be show up in studies as more reliable in terms of late life contentment, but on an individual level, we all end up noticing that we left a lot of doors unopened, and can find ourselves stuck wishing we made different choices or had d…

> There are moments in later life where everyone feels that way.

old Successful Career guy: should have spent more time with family and friends

old Poor Artist guy: should have worked harder and more conservative then I could have afforded a house, now I have to rent

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the question is the mental state developed. are you somebody who regrets everything and is never happy with what you have because you alwaya need more? or are you able to be grateful and enjoy calmly small things and accept how life is?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by cpeterso » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by hirvi74 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

gowld wrote: post #456

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> I don’t understand the thought process of putting someone down based on what they do for a living Discounting the counter productive condescension required to be the one putting the other guy down, we should all be honest with a simple fact: any typical software dev (just talking about what I know) can succeed at a gas station job while the reverse is not true. This obviously does not afford the software dev the ri…

Many, perhaps most, software devs, would utterly fail at a job that had customers, regular hours, physical labor, etc.

I worked in grocery stores with people that I would argue are smarter than many of the devs I have worked with. My old manager when I was younger and working in a grocery store was on a path to be a medical doctor, but changed paths after his friend killed himself from the the stress of medical school.

Intelligence is only one of the many variables needed to succeed in certain occupations.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by ChristianGeek » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

RajT88 wrote: post #240

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This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

As a (mostly former) distance runner. Running endless marathons is most certainly not harmless. You will face eventually injuries which affect you for the rest of your life.

I’m a distance runner too; I try to distance myself from running.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by pessimizer » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

bowsamic wrote: post #281

photochemsyn wrote: post #19

This line has been reliably trotted out every few years since the 1990s at least: But experts say today’s high-THC cannabis products — vastly different than the joints smoked decades ago — are poisoning some heavy users, including teenagers. The issue is that people adjust their consumption accordingly, just as with alcohol - drinking one liter of beer, everyone knows, is not the same as drinking one liter of vodka.…

The problem is that it's almost impossible to find the "beer" of weed now. Almost all weed has been upgraded to be super powered. If I want a joint, I have to use tobacco or catnip to fill it out unless I want to be steaming. I also think that the weed culture is hostile against suggestions of problems. Almost every time I have spoken about possible dangers of weed, even when presenting peer reviewed articles or meta…

> If I want a joint

Just give up the idea of joints. You don't have to conform to weed culture or tradition (or marketing) to smoke weed. As an act, smoking isn't particularly pleasurable (although I have to admit that smoke is mildly entertaining.) How about taking 2-3 hits from a water pipe, vape, or just an old-school pipe, and spending the rest of the night drinking something you enjoy? Have some tea instead of smoking more pot. Popcorn is very good, and fairly low-calorie.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #394

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #130

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Users of weed do more to keep it illegal by their off-putting rhetoric than any Refer Madness propaganda does. I've been in favor of legalization for decades but really dislike discussing it with users because of their often lack of self-awareness and tendency to be just as dishonest as those against it.

"Pot smokers are aggravating" is, frankly, a very stupid reason for anybody to support criminalization.

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by worker_person » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

gowld wrote: post #454

rtp4me wrote: post #441

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Because at some point, the $9.50/hr job at Taco Bell will run its course, and your child will end up with severely limited resources. Together with a lack of funding and poor health care options, your children will probably return back home to "evaluate their situation". At that point, they will start wondering why they have been left behind in society, why the system is rigged against them, etc. As we all know (and…

Why would you want someone to never learn that the system is rigged against them? So they blame themselves for their oppression? Millions of people will never rise above minmim wage jobs. Why fix that for one person ,and not for all? A Taco Bell worker probably has more free energy and intrest for tackling big problems like protesting against the oligarchs.

This is garbage. Work hard, plan hard, save money. Push through setbacks. Maybe you won't be a billionaire. But you can do pretty well in life. Don't blame others for your own laziness.

Just met a guy last month that spent 5 years working at a carwash at minimum wage. He saved up money the entire time. Got himself a van decked for mobile cleaning. He still works hard, but is making some serious money now.

Seen far more that just collect welfare checks, smoke pot and play videos or watch tv for 16 hours a day, while blaming "whomever" for their situation.

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Post by yeahNo88 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:28 PM UTC

edmundsauto wrote: post #403

marginalia_nu wrote: post #272

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Some of those moral panics did lead to action though. Hard drugs, alcohol, gambling, duels; a lot of this stuff is if not banned then at least restricted and regulated.

That’s not a clear win, as in some cases the cure proved worse than the disease. And was co-opted for goals around discrimination.

Yeah the cure industrialists limiting personal freedom by lobbying government for the greater good.

Are we not tired of that story? So what if humanity does not go to Mars? Is dad going to be unhappy about our efforts when everyone is dead?

Our culture is a joke of wishful thinking and emotional abuse to achieve someone else’s goals disguised as essential application of agency.

How terrible if humans lived a completely different agency than kowtowing to yesteryears industrial necessity to rebuild the world after humanity destroyed it.

Grigori Perelman has achieved more of note than any of us; I know about his accomplishments and none of yours. He did it all with paper and pencil. IMO our low effort consumerism and industrialist slog is destroying our imaginations and keeping us from better ideas.

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Post by sealthedeal » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 9:29 PM UTC

jamal-kumar wrote: post #431

xvedejas wrote: post #298

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Drug use can be a good excuse to put some time aside to let your mind wander, so I see why people end up getting creative on THC. And if you practice creativity while stoned, it makes sense that you'll be more creative while stoned. Like my friend who learned to juggle high, and yet cannot do it when he's sober.

I think it's a bit more than that. It makes your mind wander in different directions, in a way that lends itself to things like writing original jokes or coming up with a different angle on problems or ideas that can be solved with more 'out of the box' solutions. It does something to the associative memory in which it makes associations which you wouldn't normally assert (Which is where I think a lot of people who d…

I think that the creativity when high is basically the stress relief that THC can give. So essentially you are a blank slate, no worries, and can put your attention onto an issue and ideas seem to just "come from no where". It all comes down to stress relief.