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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by eurasiantiger » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:53 PM UTC

murat124 wrote: post #132

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

The thing with cannabis (with THC) is that it makes doing nothing OK so you may realize after some time of daily use that you have accepted doing nothing as a legit activity, contrarily when not high you'd either do something to utilize that time or may feel bad that you have nothing to do (bored). Cannabis has not much of physical addiction properties which is great yet one day you may find 10 years have got behind…

What about people who use cannabis to work, e.g. people with ADHD or PTSD?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by mtnGoat » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:53 PM UTC

dfxm12 wrote: post #208

com2kid wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Coffee? every day is fine /r/nootropics, common thread is as follows: OP: "Help, I have bad anxiety every day, what should I take for it?" re: "Do you drink coffee?" OP: "Yes, about 4 cups a day." re: "Stop drinking coffee and come back in a week and tell us how you are doing." 1 week later. OP: "My anxiety is gone!!" Caffeine has negative side effects. For some people those side effects are really bad. Also caffei…

Does caffeine have negative side effects, or does caffeine, taken in excess, including in late hours of the day, have negative side effects? It's an important distinction to make in this discussion, which largely boils down to "off label use", whether we're talking about drinking simply too much coffee or people with developing brains getting too much thc.

this is rhetorical right?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by globular-toast » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:54 PM UTC

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

This is exactly what happened to me. Luckily it was only a few months and I identified it quickly enough and stopped using it.

But having said that, I know a lot of people who have lives I consider dull but never use cannabis. So it might be nothing to do with the drug at all. After all, I was still able to quit easily. It wasn't like a heroin addiction or something.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by tacheiordache » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

D13Fd wrote: post #98

_fat_santa wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in Colorado and they limit edibles to 10mg per piece/100mg per pack max. 150mg for a single gummy is a bit nuts though. As someone who smokes a good amount of weed, my recommendation to people it to always stick to just flower. I've tried it all, vaping, vaporizers (different than vaping, you're superheating flower rather than using an extract), edibles, and regular pot. From my personal experience, edibles la…

I feel like you are omitting the fact that smoking causes cancer.

One smokes flower on a much lower magnitude. If you were to compare it to smoking cigarettes it would be 1 cigarette a day vs one pack a day.

Second, stress causes cancer. If one is using just a little bit to wean off the stress that'd work out. Also pollution causes cancer. I don't see anyone banning cars, not even having some regulations for large diesel trucks which leave a humongous trail of smoke...

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Post by R0b0t1 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

LazyMans wrote: post #155

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Many years ago I was sitting at my computer smoking after work like I normally did, and I asked myself, "What would I be doing if I wasn't smoking right now" and I couldn't answer it. I tapered off pretty easily and began to fill my time with other hobbies. I was never the type of smoker which was "active". I would smoke socially and began to hate that I could never remember people's names or conversations. It made m…

Indica or sativa? Most people with complaints as you describe are smoking indica, sativa is more appropriate for social situations, but can still make you get stuck in your head. Most people I know who use sativa find it helps their creativity.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by dfxm12 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

mesofile wrote: post #119

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

South Park also put it well when they understood that total abstinence is not the only way to deal with the situation. Maybe all it takes is a little discipline.

After all, there's a passive danger in many things we do or neglect to do.

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Post by tacheiordache » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

corrral wrote: post #7

PaulHoule wrote: post #2

I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…

Sweet Christ. 150mg? Goddamn, I hope my tolerance never gets that bad. That'd be so expensive. 1/10 that at once is enough to get me fucked up enough that, if I had taken more, I'd just be asleep.

150mg is crazy. Im a causal smoker who tokes just a little bit and that not every day. 150mg would send me to ER

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Post by sleepdreamy » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:58 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #153

Bud wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are certainly consequences to cannabis use, but let's not get carried away. At least for the vast majority of casual users, this isn't anything remotely close to a $100/day habit. Common sense should inform us of that, even if we aren't intimately familiar with how much pot actually costs. $5-10 a day is closer to the reality for most users.

Flat-out 24/7 high would be 100/day. Pot is a drug that successful people can sustain without any financial issues. Compare cocaine which can quickly ramp into 1000/day and beyond, quickly devastating the finances of even relatively wealthy people.

This is simply false. I'm not going to discuss pricing here but, with Dabs and several forms of in-take you do not need to spend 100/day to be stoned all day. I live in a recreational state(Lived here for 13 years while it could ruin your life).

In the past this might hold true but no longer.

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Post by rr888 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:59 PM UTC

photochemsyn wrote: post #19

This line has been reliably trotted out every few years since the 1990s at least: But experts say today’s high-THC cannabis products — vastly different than the joints smoked decades ago — are poisoning some heavy users, including teenagers. The issue is that people adjust their consumption accordingly, just as with alcohol - drinking one liter of beer, everyone knows, is not the same as drinking one liter of vodka.…

> "Concentrated alcohol products cause vomiting in teenagers! It's not your parent's booze!"

When non-American parents allow their teenagers to drink usually its beer/wine only.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by mtnGoat » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:00 PM UTC

standardUser wrote: post #68

The way most Americans consume weed is basically a guaranteed overdose for anyone without a high tolerance. The regular "weed" we buy from dealers has been getting stronger for years because the consumers spending most of the money on weed demand it be strong. Once retail stores opened where I lived, I started buying weed with 10-15% THC instead of the standard 20-30%. It can feel like the difference between having a…

FWIW, the idea that weed is getting "stronger" isn't necessarily true. There have been growers and strains that could get 25%+ since the 70s. Its just that those techniques are more widely known/shared and these higher numbers are easier to get to for more growers because of this shared knowledge.