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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by actfrench »

marcosdumay wrote: post #167
slg wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

I don't see much support for criminalization of drugs around here. But yeah, we should educate people so they notice if this happen due to view games, or Facebook too.

The conversation about whether or not we should make something illegal is a whole other category. We know that alcohol is bad for the brain and has a myriad of health effects and destroys lives, but was prohibition the best solution to end addiction - the jury is definitely out on that one! And don't get me started on the opioid crisis. However, I do think information is power. People often see marijuana is the harmless, kind drug that gets over-criticized. It's important to realize that the impact of the drug is not harmless and that it's also changing as it's become legalized and people are able to make it more potent with higher levels of THC, the impact on human health - and also the environment. It's also not being sustainably farmed the way it was before.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by jtode »

dcolkitt wrote: post #6

Despite this, high-concentration cannabis is a huge public health risk. The deleterious effects from smoking comes from inhaling the smoldering organic compounds in dried plant material. That health impact scales with the volume of smoke inhaled. If you increase the concentration of THC, users can achieve equivalent levels of intoxication with substantially less smoke inhalation. 30 years ago, THC concentrations were…

[an 80% reduction in smoke-related damage] [is a huge public health risk]

Interesting.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by nick__m »

AbortedLaunch wrote: post #78
Mo3 wrote: post #45

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Yeah.... I don't smoke every day, so that may be the reason you didn't get my point, anyway I'd bet a lot of money that the "some users" are exactly what I talked about. I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that I am clearly not one of them. I, too, start showing symptoms of hyperemesis if I'm being stupid and smoke way too much, and I have never met or smoked with anyone who was resistant to it and had unl…

The hyperemesis described is not an acute OD-like effect, but happens to some chronic users. It wanes when cannabis use ceases. Very hot baths and showers help suppressing the nausea.

Like i said in another post, where I linked the pubmed reference, the most effective way to suppress that nausea is to apply capsaicin cream on the abdomen but like you implied the only way to completely suppress it is abstinence.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

Reason077 wrote: post #64

I dunno. I remember the stuff making me feel very sick when I tried it in my teens in the 1990s. Kind of put me off it for life, even though I've got plenty of friends who are still into it.

Any reason to believe it wasn't K2? Or...moldy weed?

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Post by [deleted] »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by lacker »

nisegami wrote: post #125
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I know this wasn't your intention, but this is the most compelling argument to try it that I've ever heard.

If you are ever going to try any illegal drug in your life, a vape pen with cannabis is probably the way to do it. It's pretty safe and the effect is really not crazy, it's sort of on the order of magnitude of alcohol. And soon it probably won't even be an "illegal drug" any more - where I live in California it's legal enough that you can simply walk into a store and buy some.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by com2kid »

collegeburner wrote: post #102
slg wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

Parents have been complaining for literally decades that videogames make kids lazy or that "tv rots your brain". And I have seen videogame overuse fuck up people's academics and careers. Weed bros get real touchy when anybody suggests something bad about it. Inb4 "alcohol is worse". I'm still for legalization but people need to stop getting so defensive.

> And I have seen videogame overuse fuck up people's academics and careers.

Circa 2005, a non-trivial percent of students sat in the back of lecture halls playing WoW during classes.

Games have gotten terrifyingly more addictive since then, though you don't hear so much about games ruining lives anymore in the news. Maybe it just isn't newsworthy anymore?

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Post by tresqotheq »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

>And you just won't get as much out of your life as you could get, won't achieve as much relationship success, professional success, or personal fulfillment.

So, like being addicted to an Internet connected, social media infested smartphone?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by [deleted] »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

flictonic wrote: post #160
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #120

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You'd think that would work, but it doesn't and I don't know why. Maybe because you still get the same % in the hit but it just doesn't last as long? For people that use vaporizers like mine, you also need to have a certain amount for the vaporizer to be effective otherwise you get nothing out of it which leads to inserting even more weed and suddenly you have more in your system than you meant to. The higher percent…

> For people that use vaporizers like mine, you also need to have a certain amount for the vaporizer to be effective otherwise you get nothing out of it You probably know this but just in case, some vapes are better for microdosing than others and will work with just a pinch. > Unfortunately finding the low-dose stuff seems to be very difficult. What I've been doing is buying CBD flower online (usually <$75 per/ounce…

The amount of flower doesn't seem to make much difference for me; it still produces the anxiety and panicky feeling, but doesn't last as long. For example I'll have 15 minutes of panic attacks instead of an hour. That's a great trick though, so I'll try it out with the CBD flower and see how it goes, thanks!
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