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> I always hated the long multi-tweet essays I'm very new to twitter but I love them because feedback can be given on a (near) per sentence basis.

You’d have loved inline quoting on Usenet.

I still use a few forums that allow you to quote other messages/parts of it.

Funny how I used to be a fan of the branching structure of reddit threads, but now went on to prefer the list of traditional forums with quoting more.

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I hope they keep it at 280. The value of Twitter is that it has limits, it keeps things focused and isn't trying to be everything for everyone. If someone needs to write a diatribe they can post a link to a blog.

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It provides acres and acres of self-confirming thoughts, reminds me of: > Hobbits delighted in such things, if they were accurate: they liked to have books filled with things that they already knew, set out fair and square with no contradictions. You can go to twitter for confirmation on what you already think, and amusements, but things that go against your worldview are basically impossible to do in short tweets, s…

I find a Gish Gallop of misinformation is far more obvious on a platform that forces you to break up your points. It also provides more effective rebuttal on a point-by-point basis. And the self-confirming problem is less about the 280char thing and more about allowing people to create filter bubbles, which is intrinsic to social media.

I don't see how that's the case. Misinformation thrives in low-info, high-throughput environments. You can't check everything you read, and Twitter will default to showing you all of the misinfo points in series but make you hunt for rebuttals. So most people don't see them. They see the zinger, they go "yeah that feels right", and before you know it they've incorporated it into their worldview.

Point-by-point rebuttals are extremely ineffective, because by the time you move on to the next point, they've already duct-taped the previous one back together. Nobody is keeping score, nobody goes "aha, I counted and he rebutted 7/9 of your points, so I don't believe you anymore!"

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While it's all well and good to launch new features, I think Twitter should improve their existing service and I'm referring to low hanging fruits. I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Twitter can still display Ads to me irrespective of whether I'm logged in or not. In fact cutting me off means I leave Twitter which means I don't…

You can use nitter and bookmarks to get most of the usefulness out of twitter.

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While it's all well and good to launch new features, I think Twitter should improve their existing service and I'm referring to low hanging fruits. I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Twitter can still display Ads to me irrespective of whether I'm logged in or not. In fact cutting me off means I leave Twitter which means I don't…

> I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Precisely the reason why I switched over to nitter and have a rule that redirects me to it.

You have a rule? I have a firefox plugin that does that. What is this "rule" you speak of? :)

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> I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Precisely the reason why I switched over to nitter and have a rule that redirects me to it.

You have a rule? I have a firefox plugin that does that. What is this "rule" you speak of? :)

Basically using a redirector plugin with a rewrite rule for twitter URL's to be translated to nitter.

Over the months I accumulated quite a few little, useful rules. (Like stripping out the highlight text thingie that google "helpfully" adds when clicking on search results.) I can post a few once I get home.

I like to do as much as I can with as few plugins as possible, which is why I don't have a dedicated plugin for that.

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Pretty much every take I have on this is covered by the discourse here about walled gardens, but I do have two other points of concern: Indexability and SEO. When you want to view certain content on Twitter, you need to log in. If you don't want to, you're forbidden from viewing that content. If that happens here, I worry that the accessibility of long-form, blog-style content production will lead to more users eithe…

Facebook groups and twitter has been probably the worst things to happen to preservation of our knowledge.

Discord as well. For instance the Scala community moved from gitter to discord. I couldn’t disagree more with that decision.

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post #161

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>makes me realize I'm on the algorithmic feed Does Twitter change this setting against your will?

Yeah. "Twitter reverts back to the algorithmic timeline after you're away for a while. You need to perform the above steps again to see the chronological timeline." source https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-twitter-timeline-algorit...

wtf

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> I don't understand the rationale behind cutting me off while I'm scrolling through Twitter simply because I'm not logged in. Precisely the reason why I switched over to nitter and have a rule that redirects me to it.

You have a rule? I have a firefox plugin that does that. What is this "rule" you speak of? :)

I am using https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirector/ocgpenf...

And added the following rule:

Example URL: https://twitter.com/user/status/123456789

Include Pattern: https://twitter.com/(.*)

Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1

Pattern type: Regular expression

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I wholeheartedly agree with all of what you said, but this stands out: > And then each tweet needs to be punchy enough in 240 characters to keep people reading which produces a particularly annoying writing style. I also find this writing style insufferable (every sentence a punchline), but though it may seem obvious in hindsight, the explanation that otherwise people won't keep reading had escaped me. I thought that…

/1 The existing Twitter limitations strongly encourage conciseness, which I often like. /2 Blogs, articles, and HN comments like this, can ramble on and make diversions that I don’t always care for. /3 I would like a dynamic slider control where I could contract someone’s writing to their essential point (tl;dr) or expand it (longreads). /4 Bonus boffin round: a control to vary depth/complexity. I mostly would use si…

This "depth slider" is called the Inverted Pyramid [0]. The first paragraph has the main information (aka tl;dr). The next the secondary points. And as a reader, you just have to keep reading as you want more details. You know the next few paragraphs don't have more important information than what you've already read.

That's how the print media wrote their articles. They've already sold the paper/magazine to you, so now the goal was to make you feel like you have as much information as you would like with as little effort as possible, so you're willing to buy the next issue.

Nowadays, with the attention economy, the writing style has changed. The main objective is to keep the user reading for as long as possible.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism)

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