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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by PaulHoule »

dfxm12 wrote: post #11
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…

Is this in the US? What state? I've only seen menus in NJ, IL, and most edibles are like 5-10mg per piece and seem to top out at 25mg per piece, but those tend to be big pieces that look like they are meant to be broken apart (like a Hershey bar). I think setting national standards around this would be just one benefit of legalizing recreational use at the federal level.

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by caymanjim »

Edibles are a real problem. The potency is completely unpredictable. Even the ones from supposedly-reputable medical providers are inconsistent at best. Some are total duds, some are far too potent for even experienced users. I'm sure some manufacturers are using some amount of science and engineering in an attempt to standardize, but I don't believe any of it is truly pharmaceutical-grade calibrated, or even close.

If we're going to continue this charade of pretending it's medicine, then the FDA should be involved to verify the claims and improve quality assurance for dosage.

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

Mo3 wrote: post #15

I live in the Netherlands where there is a "coffeeshop" culture, with some of these coffeeshops having a connaisseur-like focus - as in, they sometimes even offer extremely exotic strains that you've never heard about and aren't even on Leafly etc yet, sourced from god knows where 10000 miles away, and then carefully and passionately grown and cured - and I can 100% guarantee you that people are not necessarily getti…

Would love to see sources on deaths from unregulated weed. Are we talking the age old boogeyman of laced weed or something else?

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Post by akhmatova »

dcolkitt wrote: post #6

Despite this, high-concentration cannabis is a huge public health risk. The deleterious effects from smoking comes from inhaling the smoldering organic compounds in dried plant material. That health impact scales with the volume of smoke inhaled. If you increase the concentration of THC, users can achieve equivalent levels of intoxication with substantially less smoke inhalation. 30 years ago, THC concentrations were…

Despite this, high-concentration cannabis is a huge public health risk.

From the math in the rest of your post, I think you meant to say that "Low-concentration cannabis is a significant health risk". (I don't think the term "huge" applies in any case to a substance whose intake, after all, is optional).

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Post by corrral »

_fat_santa wrote: post #18
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…

I live in Colorado and they limit edibles to 10mg per piece/100mg per pack max. 150mg for a single gummy is a bit nuts though. As someone who smokes a good amount of weed, my recommendation to people it to always stick to just flower. I've tried it all, vaping, vaporizers (different than vaping, you're superheating flower rather than using an extract), edibles, and regular pot. From my personal experience, edibles la…

A lot of the concentrates used in edibles and vapes cut nearly everything but the THC, which may be part of the observed difference between those and flower. "Full spectrum" extracts that keep many of the other chemicals seem to hit very different for me—I don't get the stereotypical giggly-high effect on pure THC or THC+CBD, mostly just sleepy (which is often exactly what I want, so that's fine), but I do on full spectrum gummies. Could be psychosomatic, but the effect feels pretty different to me.

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Post by d82nsjk9 »

hericium wrote: post #3

Those high concentration THC extracts cause huge serotonin spikes. I'm on medicinal 19% THC flowers (190mg daily) and I'm doing my best to make it "extended release"[1] by baking edibles[2] instead of taking huge bong hits. Daily irritation of the reward system is a no-no. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_release [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29902972

How did you switch from smoking to edibles? Or was it easy for you?

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Post by mschuster91 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #18
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…

I live in Colorado and they limit edibles to 10mg per piece/100mg per pack max. 150mg for a single gummy is a bit nuts though. As someone who smokes a good amount of weed, my recommendation to people it to always stick to just flower. I've tried it all, vaping, vaporizers (different than vaping, you're superheating flower rather than using an extract), edibles, and regular pot. From my personal experience, edibles la…

> Also this is complete pseudoscience but there's something that makes me feel better about smoking flower vs the other stuff. Vaping and all that other stuff is cool, but there's a certain safety in knowing the only modification a flower had was trimming the leaves away, no lab equipment, extractions, chemicals or any of that.

Honestly, that is common sense not pseudoscience. There has been way too much shady shit going on especially in vaping [1].

[1] https://www.vox.com/2019/10/28/20936888/vaping-lung-illness-...

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Post by hestefisk »

hestefisk wrote: post #16
dcolkitt wrote: post #6

Despite this, high-concentration cannabis is a huge public health risk. The deleterious effects from smoking comes from inhaling the smoldering organic compounds in dried plant material. That health impact scales with the volume of smoke inhaled. If you increase the concentration of THC, users can achieve equivalent levels of intoxication with substantially less smoke inhalation. 30 years ago, THC concentrations were…

Let alone the mental health risk from permanent THC-induced psychosis.

Downvote? Seriously, hn? It’s a fact that hashish intake can cause psychosis.

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Post by mettamage »

Mo3 wrote: post #15

I live in the Netherlands where there is a "coffeeshop" culture, with some of these coffeeshops having a connaisseur-like focus - as in, they sometimes even offer extremely exotic strains that you've never heard about and aren't even on Leafly etc yet, sourced from god knows where 10000 miles away, and then carefully and passionately grown and cured - and I can 100% guarantee you that people are not necessarily getti…

Fellow Dutchie here, I completely agree with this. When I learned to smoke weed, which was relatively late in my life (late twenties), I got sick of weed. I wondered why smoking just a quarter of a joint was already too much. Then I realized I just need between 1 to 4 inhales and call it a day. The high is relatively light and quite nice :)

> sourced from god knows where

Well, that's the illegal part, isn't it? ;-)

It's always illegal until it lands in the coffeeshop! It's almost like a game of tag really. I wish Dutch politicians would properly legalize it, but the way I sometimes hear them talk about drugs is way too out of touch for that ever to happen.

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