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The title is a bit weird, since I think this will be more of an issue for people who are in a serious/long-term relationship but aren't married.
More than half people I know in Europe are. A lot of Americans are, too.
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Such laws have some far-fetched, surprising (at least for Westerners) and very creepy consequences. I've read a story about a Swedish girl that had been date-raped while staying on one of Gulf states. Having been used to European legal standards, she reported this incident to the police, only to find out that not only her case was dismissed, but she was found guilty of extramarital affair. Creepy as hell.
Excuse me but this is laughable, the logic not the case, I am sorry for the girl who've been through this but corruption exists everywhere and you're coming for far-fetched conclusions based on hearsay. Pro lgbtq+ laws have far worse consequences. A trans sexually assaulted an American man's daughter in the school bath then they triggered the dad in the court and when he couldn't take it anymore they accused him of D…
The flag burning is a problem with over-imprisoning, that is widely regarded as a big problem with America, and I'm not sure why pro-lgbtq+ laws are an issue here.
I didn't bother to try to research your rant about Sweden.
EDIT: If you're talking about this other event, the student doesn't appear to be trans either, but went into the girls' bathroom despite identifying as male: https://loudounnow.com/2021/10/26/teen-convicted-in-sexual-a...
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I wonder how they would verify that with foreigners, especially those with a history of poor record-keeping. I surmise that there must be at least a couple of countries where a marriage certificate is nothing more than a plain sheet of copy paper with something along the lines of "I hereby declare that X and Y are married" in their local legalese. Although I can't help but snicker at the image of a bunch of poor cops…
They killed 3000-4000 Indian slaves every year for their stadium. You really think they'll treat you with such care ? This while much of the emirates is serviced by a slave-class Indians, who can't practice their religion, build temples (exceptions: Oman, UAE), or anything "disallowed" by the savage law-system they practice. Then these same good-for-nothing oil sheikhs preach to India! Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhoo…
people were being killed in the streets, with sticks, no legal protection women getting raped, not to mention the obsession with raping kids in temples and whatnot in India not long ago I think someone published here on HN an article about the Indian police planting evidence on victims computers.
Not to mention taking the citizenship from the Indian muslims Not to mention street shitting, not to mention praying for covid and for toilets and every single dirty thing one can think of. Not to mention bathing in cow dung. Not to mention the extremely cruel caste system which has no basis but inner discrimination and separating the society.
will you rage against these practices or show any sign of disagreement to the Indian government? we don't see any such efforts on your side so If anything I would say Qatar should stop accepting Hindus.
You've done nothing to the muslims but murdered them, raped their women, offended them, mocked their religion and prophet lately too, and you don't even deserve to have temples built in their land, you're the only danger to humanity because if things get out of hands you will make the whole planet a one big literal shithole.
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To the neighbour that I cannot reply to: > Please respect conservative views on life too. I think it is a good idea to marry first especially if you are a woman. I respect all kinds of viewpoints as long as they respect other viewpoints as well. A viewpoint that tries to jail people for their very personal decisions is inherently not respectable, because it is itself by definition lacking respect.
okay, this got me mad. why do you think killing your child and eating him is a bad idea. animals do that, and we're animals, so give me a reason as why to this being a bad idea and you will gladly get me to agree with your very self-contradictory opinion. You don't have values, nor a measurement to define what's good and what's not, not to mention "respect" ideas or people. You only have one thing to appreciate as an…
Being detrimental to other people's materialism is detrimental to being free and alive.
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The middle east isn't exactly a garden full of fruit and sunshine.
I don't think that whataboutism is helping, do you?
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More than half people I know in Europe are. A lot of Americans are, too.
can't hold themselves for a week till they're back? my heart goes for them, God lord, how can one spend a week without sex, horrible, must invade the country and establish democracy.
But to be forced to hold oneself for even one hour is something I don't take so kindly.
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I say they are personal, because they affect the individual much more than anyone else. Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow, but that does not eliminate personal freedom. If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than your's and vice versa.
> Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow Yeah, somehow Europe is now aging, weird, ha? > If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than yours and vice versa. So, Who defines or measures this? you? great, should start a "you religion", this is starting to take shape. Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opini…
Populations have a lifecycle too. Forcing people to reproduce does not seem like a worthwile solution to me.
> So, Who defines or measures this?
It is self-organizing, for humans ideally by debate, since they can. Since you mention animals above: they are much more straight-forward about their laws than humans. We overcomplicate things, but if I can make a call, it would be to simplify laws to the most basic level and try to keep them clear of religion and cultural norms.
> Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opinion to outweigh the court's opinion because he's getting much more money hence his trade is affecting him much more than the little amounts he sells individually to people.
I think a better example would be a corporation that gives people cancer for profit, because in the case of the drug dealer it is not always clear if any harm was actually caused. Just judging it by CancerCorp's profit would be obviously ignorant and binary, because it would not take the harm that was directly caused into consideration. At the end, some kind of balance needs to be established. This is what nature does, right?
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can't hold themselves for a week till they're back? my heart goes for them, God lord, how can one spend a week without sex, horrible, must invade the country and establish democracy.
One can "hold themselves" for not a week but for months. But to be forced to hold oneself for even one hour is something I don't take so kindly.
I thought this attitude usually stems only from these hateful religious zealots who refuse to "integrate" or "tolerate" others.
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Excuse me but this is laughable, the logic not the case, I am sorry for the girl who've been through this but corruption exists everywhere and you're coming for far-fetched conclusions based on hearsay. Pro lgbtq+ laws have far worse consequences. A trans sexually assaulted an American man's daughter in the school bath then they triggered the dad in the court and when he couldn't take it anymore they accused him of D…
The "trans" student is a kindergartner who doesn't identify as trans, and the assault likely didn't happen: https://decaturish.com/2018/10/u-s-department-of-education-i... The flag burning is a problem with over-imprisoning, that is widely regarded as a big problem with America, and I'm not sure why pro-lgbtq+ laws are an issue here. I didn't bother to try to research your rant about Sweden. EDIT: If you're talking a…
they're at the very least trying to force a minority ideology over the general majority.
And that is quite the opposite of democracy and freedom. pushing the ideas of a minority as taken for granted is how authoritarian systems work.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/lgbtq-american...
this is in the states, I am sure the case is similar everywhere else.
https://www.statista.com/chart/6466/europes-lgbt-population-...
the issue is also pushing the "European standards", Muslims are not opposed to gays if they get treated, quite the opposite the Islamic opinion is that God will reward them because they're struggling and they should be treated and taken care of.
speaking of the European standards, I don't buy it anymore, used to, but not anymore.
Their lies clearly show up when the European values make the LGBTQ+ / feminist struggles heroic after years of secular oppression of the Muslims only to blame all the failures and mistakes of the secular ruling systems on the Muslims and Islam.
Anyone called the SA prince a terrorist when he chopped off Khashoukji to pieces and put his body parts in trash bags? No, not really.
Have any humanitarian organization shed any lights on the Muslims being thrown in jails and tortured and murdered and the women probably raped? Nope, they'd probably support the local narrative by claiming these to be fanatics or terrorists etc.
all I am attempting to do is to show you that corruption doesn't only exist in Qatar, it does exist outside too despite that you're trying to be overdramatic about it.
Also it's their country, if you refuse to comply with the local laws you can refrain from travelling.
same as if a Muslim refuses to comply with the laws of a western country he or she can go back to their country or to a more culturally appropriate place for them.
What's mindboggling is the amount of criticism of such a little thing.
ps. you won't need to stay more than a week probably, and unless you have issues I doubt it would be hard to refrain from banging someone for a week till you get back.
Weird how so many people feel entitled to change the laws and ideologies of others but would call out any such attempts being done onto them as brainwashing or fanaticism etc.