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A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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Article kind of bums me out.

One loss prevention officer says:

> He finds the environment of loss prevention thrilling and takes pride in the training he’s received to track down and apprehend shoplifters. “That’s a huge adrenaline rush,” he says. “I think that’s a major factor in why people are in this field.”

But also says:

> “I don’t do this because I think shoplifting is wrong,” he says. “If I’m perfectly honest, I could not care less about that. I just do my job.”

Power is a hell of a drug.

Obviously these officers exercise discretion, because shoplifting happens all day long. Many stores build cases for repeat offenders before attempting to confront them. It's an interesting and complex issue, and one I'm glad I don't have to deal with 8 hours a day.

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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post #2

Article kind of bums me out. One loss prevention officer says: > He finds the environment of loss prevention thrilling and takes pride in the training he’s received to track down and apprehend shoplifters. “That’s a huge adrenaline rush,” he says. “I think that’s a major factor in why people are in this field.” But also says: > “I don’t do this because I think shoplifting is wrong,” he says. “If I’m perfectly honest,…

I don't see the problem as long as it's directed toward a prosocial aim.

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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post #2

Article kind of bums me out. One loss prevention officer says: > He finds the environment of loss prevention thrilling and takes pride in the training he’s received to track down and apprehend shoplifters. “That’s a huge adrenaline rush,” he says. “I think that’s a major factor in why people are in this field.” But also says: > “I don’t do this because I think shoplifting is wrong,” he says. “If I’m perfectly honest,…

I don't see the problem as long as it's directed toward a prosocial aim.

So busting people who are shoplifting items that they either need to survive or items that they can sell to survive to say, pay rent, because our capitalist system has shit on them and left them with no options

That prosocial goal?

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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The article strangely seems like it's framing the entire industry/profession of loss prevention in a negative light. Hopefully everyone realizes the more retail theft a store experiences, the higher prices become for those of us who pay... and the more likely a store is to shut down if theft becomes too prevalent.

I'm not here defending a subreddit I've never visited but in general, those in the loss prevention industry don't have the time or context to evaluate if a given shoplifter is or isn't deserving of intervention based on the shoplifter's circumstances. Loss prevention is there to prevent loss - not make moral judgements.

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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post #2

Article kind of bums me out. One loss prevention officer says: > He finds the environment of loss prevention thrilling and takes pride in the training he’s received to track down and apprehend shoplifters. “That’s a huge adrenaline rush,” he says. “I think that’s a major factor in why people are in this field.” But also says: > “I don’t do this because I think shoplifting is wrong,” he says. “If I’m perfectly honest,…

I don't see the problem as long as it's directed toward a prosocial aim.

Yeah if a doctor said “I don’t really care about my patients’ lives. I just like the power of being able to prevent death”

I really think that’s perfectly fine

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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What I find amazing is that some retail operators apparently expect low-wage workers making like $12/hour to physically accost shoplifters or try to detain them at the exit door, at risk of getting punched in the face, bear sprayed, shot, stabbed, etc.

They're not getting paid anywhere near enough for that level of risk.

Re: A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

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> “A lot of people are like, ‘How, morally, can you do this job?’” How did people's moral compasses get so corrupt that instead of believing stealing is immoral, they believe that stopping other people from stealing is immoral?

Copying my other comment here. There definitely is a moral issue

>busting people who are shoplifting items that they either need to survive or items that they can sell to survive to say, pay rent, because our capitalist system has shit on them and left them with no options

Property rights should not be above human life. Full stop.

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