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Great, you are the best, super cool! Go eat an apple
I'm just describing what all programmers have done since the beginning of time
Why be needlessly elitist
Next-generation AI models
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Re: Next-generation AI models
#102Can we hope for a local, open-source version of these models some day?
it is a question we are always asking but not sure what people would do if they were open-sourced. Did you have a specific use case in mind?
Re: Next-generation AI models
#103"Understanding AI for coders..."
For any coders who might think this article will help them understand AI, the actual title is:
Announcing our Next-generation AI models
Perhaps it has changed since being posted but it's just a plug.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just describing what all programmers have done since the beginning of time
You don't see how you just shot yourself in the foot, do you? If nothing else the HN mantra is not "That's how we've always done it."
The entire programmer ethos revolves around building deep understandings of the level abstraction you're working at and deep diving into the layers below when necessary or even just for fun!
I've watched people use co-pilot but and I'm not 100% convinced it's a good thing but I'm open to it. The problem I've seen is that in some cases it generates some really bad code, code that could've been replaced by usage of a standard library.
What I think it's really good at is helping to learn new languages. Getting idiomatic code generated, even if you throw it out eventually is a great way to get a feel for a new language without having to jump back and forth between the editor and the browser.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't see how you just shot yourself in the foot, do you? If nothing else the HN mantra is not "That's how we've always done it."
The entire programmer ethos revolves around building deep understandings of the level abstraction you're working at and deep diving into the layers below when necessary or even just for fun! I've watched people use co-pilot but and I'm not 100% convinced it's a good thing but I'm open to it. The problem I've seen is that in some cases it generates some really bad code, code that could've been replaced by usage of a s…
I save tons of time having to write matplotlib code etc. because AI does it for me and I can spend more time thinking about the deep parts of research. I basically haven't had to write more than 1 or 2 keystrokes for a plot I've made in months now. If that's not useful I don't know what is.
Re: Next-generation AI models
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Yeah, I was trying to find a polite way of pointing out that even their screen capture showing how "awesome" the completion is is almost guaranteed to be wrong File fileName = is off to a bad start, but finishing it with File fileName = new File(path); is going to get a finger-wag from me when it makes it to PR because it's a very bad variable name
no need to worry we love good feedback here at Tabnine ;-) Your observations are appreciated. In this case we are using general code and not a custom model but if you would like a custom model then I would wager you would get better variable names... maybe even "awesome". Our goal with our customers is to build models based on the best custom code and input from the best developers so that your new devs can learn fro…
When looking across a single companies codebase, how will you distinguish "best practices" from "we know this is bad but it works don't break it"? I have yet to work somewhere where the former is more than 5-10% of the code in production so I worry about this making it harder to raise the bar.
I would find it a more compelling pitch to say tabnine will help me and my teammates follow more general best practices, though I understand how subjective that is.
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#108Re: Next-generation AI models
#109I consider myself pretty advanced user of Tabnine, having purchased the first version from Jacob just when it appeared. I haven't used (and don't plan to) its full-function code completion and only briefly evaluated Copilot. Some thoughts: - Tabnine's local per-repository model shines best when used on big monolithic repos with lots of similar or boilerplate code. By learning on the same code it's used for it IMO doe…
Appreciate the feedback and looks like you are clearly in the developer group that wants very fast small useful completions. Can you share the modifications that you made and perhaps a few more details on what they were?
Both are related to limitations of vscode completion engine, so Tabnine can't really blamed for them in any way.
1. Initially Tabnine's auto-completion was triggered on any character, which best leveraged Tabnine's power but also had inherent problem: when Tabnine was triggered on non-letter character it sometimes prevented Vscode from showing suggestions from other completion sources (LSPs, snippets). There is a discussion in https://github.com/codota/tabnine-vscode/issues/6 with me explaining that the only viable solution is to reduce set of trigger characters to letters only. In the end a fix was pushed that reduced the set of trigger characters, which made the problem less likely but still not solved. The are numerous duplicates of this issue on Github.
2. Another problem is when Vscode has auto-completion suggestions from Tabnine and other sources (LSP, snippets), it frequently puts Tabnine's at the top of list. This is a big no-go for me because most of the time just want to complete the identifier (class field, method etc.). Modifying just the extension code didn't help so in the end I had add a small patch to Vscode itself, which gives lowest score to Tabnine's candidates: https://github.com/sergei-dyshel/vscode/commit/ee73034b9ec6c....
I must admit that both problems can be practically solved by new "inline auto-completion" mechanism in vscode which looks very promising for AI-based completion in general. I'm looking forward to evaluate it.
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The entire programmer ethos revolves around building deep understandings of the level abstraction you're working at and deep diving into the layers below when necessary or even just for fun! I've watched people use co-pilot but and I'm not 100% convinced it's a good thing but I'm open to it. The problem I've seen is that in some cases it generates some really bad code, code that could've been replaced by usage of a s…
I save tons of time having to write matplotlib code etc. because AI does it for me and I can spend more time thinking about the deep parts of research. I basically haven't had to write more than 1 or 2 keystrokes for a plot I've made in months now. If that's not useful I don't know what is.
that sounds amazing, I just spent 3 hours last night making mpl plots for ideas I already had. this sounds like a perfect use case for me