Tabnine and Copilot feel like the endboss for various plagiarism checkers. I'm curious how universities will adapt to this.
How have universities adapted to copy-pasting code off of StackOverflow?
Or rewriting code from books?
Next-generation AI models
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Re: Next-generation AI models
#82Re: Next-generation AI models
#83I might be a super weird use case BUT believe it or not I use both Tabnine and Copilot and I kinda like the combo. Here's how it works: I use Copilot for its multi-line code generation. It's vastly superior. (Sorry Tabnine). Gotta give credit to Tabnine for kicking off this space -- they had a multi-year headstart on Copilot and it was pretty cool when it first launched, but it just doesn't come close to Copilot. Ope…
You are not the only one that has said this but would love a link to a video on how you like to work with both together.
Copilot uses a huge model and a ton of GPU's (and an unlimited budget) to focus on really long completions. This is a very specific choice to go for long completions.
We have worked hard to solve this problem differently and with the new generation you will see longer multi-line completions while also giving developers the options to use shorter suggestions (perhaps together with Copilot)
Re: Next-generation AI models
#84I might be a super weird use case BUT believe it or not I use both Tabnine and Copilot and I kinda like the combo. Here's how it works: I use Copilot for its multi-line code generation. It's vastly superior. (Sorry Tabnine). Gotta give credit to Tabnine for kicking off this space -- they had a multi-year headstart on Copilot and it was pretty cool when it first launched, but it just doesn't come close to Copilot. Ope…
Call me old fashioned, but I use my brain for mutli-line code generation
I used to use that, but Copilot works better with multiple languages!
...just kinda joking: for me, one major use case of this thing is a faster alternative to googling some syntax or method name.
Re: Next-generation AI models
#85I remember when Jacob Jackson’s (this kid is nothing less of a genius) tabnine project was posted on HN. Codota then bought tabnine and now they renamed themselves after this acquisition. Got me interested what Jacob is doing now. Looks like after his stint at OpenAI this is his new project: https://same.energy/
Jacob Jackson is awesome and we loved the time we got to work with him. Brilliant dude
Re: Next-generation AI models
#86I really want to love Tabine. I really, really do. I gave it a fair chance, let it index my private personal projects, ran it on my personal machine to see how it worked. The results are... not great. I'm using IntelliJ, and Tabnine is arrogant enough to believe that their autocomplete is superior to the libraries autocomplete, even when completely wrong or it has no idea of its autocomplete. These are opensource lib…
Seconded. Tabnine's suggestions were way worse than IntelliJ's suggestions. It was very annoying. Uninstalled it after a giving it a good try.
Java was the one language where I found TabNine to fall short. I think it’s a harder case for AI completions, because the existing story for editing Java is a lot less like editing text than other languages.
I haven’t tried Copilot for editing Java, because I’m no longer working in any Java code bases, but I wonder if it does a better job.
Re: Next-generation AI models
#87I feel for TabNine. What they're doing is impactful, impressive - and so eclipsed by an unreasonably well-resourced competitor that they don't even get given much credit. "Not as good as CoPilot" really doesn't say enough about something that's still very impressive. Personally I thought it was cool but not game-changing, and moved on when I got into CoPilot. I can't comment on the next-gen models.
I think it's mostly about having deeper pockets than being clever or original when it comes to A.I. (though these guys just got $15m fwiw).
But this is one thing that worries me about A.I speaking as an indiehacker.
Being scrappy won't soon cut it anymore. Right now you can bootstrap a solid product for $15K, at least a MVP. Soon with the amount of GPU and other resources required to train these models you'll need a min $1M budget and no amount of jugaad will be able to cut it.
Re: Next-generation AI models
#88I consider myself pretty advanced user of Tabnine, having purchased the first version from Jacob just when it appeared. I haven't used (and don't plan to) its full-function code completion and only briefly evaluated Copilot. Some thoughts: - Tabnine's local per-repository model shines best when used on big monolithic repos with lots of similar or boilerplate code. By learning on the same code it's used for it IMO doe…
Appreciate the feedback and looks like you are clearly in the developer group that wants very fast small useful completions. Can you share the modifications that you made and perhaps a few more details on what they were?
Re: Next-generation AI models
#89I used TabNine for years, if I recall correctly it was developed by a Waterloo (Ontario - Canada) student and bought by an Israeli company.
Once they changed their EULA my security aware company was like can't use that anymore.
I provided that feedback to them but I guess I was the only one raising eyebrows.
My suggestion is just lower your price to match Copilot, so it's easy on the user deciding between both of you, I am for one sold on how useful Copilot is.
Re: Next-generation AI models
#90What's up with this? The title is editorialized as advertisement against a competing product and the content of the link is essentially advertisement too.
It was posted by the VP of Business Development of Tabnine. Is this really organically ending up on the front page or are some bot/vote rings in control?
@dang shouldn't the title at least be changed to "Announcing our Next-generation AI models"?