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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it safe to conclude he's talking about the host country of the World Cup?

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Tu quoque and appeal to tradition - you’re rolling in the logical fallacies today.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#92

One night stands are not illegal in Arabic law, there are even prostitutes. In theory you get married just before and divorce just after the act. In practise anything sexual is forbidden in public. And some hotels may deny accommodation to unmarried couples. But going out in typical "pride" outfit is insensitive and propably bad idea. Like wearing SS uniform in Germany.

What horrors similar to the Nazi's have homosexuals committed to earn a sensitive response im Qatar?

Ask prophet. I just want to deter some activists from getting into troubles.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#93
post #22

Interesting that with something as big as football, the organisers can get away with a lot of bad taste decisions. They can host wherever they want and they will be guaranteed a sufficient turnout thanks to the absolute massiveness of the fanbase. Woman's rights or workers rights in a faraway country? Fat load of nothing issues for many who want to see their country in the semis.

FIFA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world so it is hardly a surprise. Anything is for sale. It is widely documented. Here is an OK starting point, if you want to dig deeper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case

FIFA can only operate this way as long as the country organizations tolerate it, it’s interesting how something like sports that is commonly considered as representing a country is so massively corrupt and everybody is ok with it (and I’m thinking of the big sponsors, where you probably have massive background checks to get hired, but it’s alright to invest in such organizations)

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

The far more important question is why our authorities have been totally willing to subject potentially countless of our citizens to arbitrary and unlawful imprisonment?

Every games for fairly obvious reasons has been shagtastic.

We shouldn't go.

Edit"countless" because you might not need to count just assume everyone single will be arrested. I don't dare look up their laws pertaining to LGBTQ+ folks.

Edit2: add in installed NSO and other deep inspection wares plus terrorist motivations internally against their state (for much the same objections natch) and we're going through'72 again.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#95

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Why on earth do some people think it’s okay to include USA with countries like Qatar? USA isn’t perfect, but being gay isn’t punishable by jail time here.

> USA isn’t perfect, but being gay isn’t punishable by jail time here. Well, not since 2003, at least. For now.

Were they sending gay people to jail in the USA pre 2003?

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it safe to conclude he's talking about the host country of the World Cup?

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> It's their culture, their country, do we have a moral right to say country barbaric for their cultural norms they accepted for hundreds of years?

Cultural norms end where other people's human rights start.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#97

The title downplays this a lot. The first sentence in the article reads "Any extramarital sexual encounter (...) could result in a seven-year jail sentence." That usually means any sexual relation outside of marriage is forbidden, even between life partners.

I wonder how they would verify that with foreigners, especially those with a history of poor record-keeping. I surmise that there must be at least a couple of countries where a marriage certificate is nothing more than a plain sheet of copy paper with something along the lines of "I hereby declare that X and Y are married" in their local legalese. Although I can't help but snicker at the image of a bunch of poor cops…

> I surmise that there must be at least a couple of countries where a marriage certificate is nothing more than a plain sheet of copy paper with something along the lines of "I hereby declare that X and Y are married" in their local legalese.

Aside from using something other than “copy paper” and added ornamentation, this could describe all of my US legal documents including my marriage and birth certificates.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#99
post #4

it's disgusting to organize public, worldwide events in barbaric countries.

Interesting interview on the radio here in the UK a few weeks ago with a famous climber who went to Saudi Arabia I think to compete after much moral deliberation. He did say that every native he spoke to was very grateful for his attendance, people travelling and participating in these sorts of events is an effective way to bring change and open peoples eyes, mainly through his insistence there were female climbers c…

Well, pardon me for pointing out, but he really should be talking to the people who aren't available to him to meet. The workers, slaves, people in jails. I'm sure they would have a slightly different opinion.

Availability bias at its most obvious.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

#100

The title downplays this a lot. The first sentence in the article reads "Any extramarital sexual encounter (...) could result in a seven-year jail sentence." That usually means any sexual relation outside of marriage is forbidden, even between life partners.

As there's no such thing as "life partners" in sharia law.
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