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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

The gulf states are modern-day slave societies.

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Interesting that with something as big as football, the organisers can get away with a lot of bad taste decisions. They can host wherever they want and they will be guaranteed a sufficient turnout thanks to the absolute massiveness of the fanbase. Woman's rights or workers rights in a faraway country? Fat load of nothing issues for many who want to see their country in the semis.

It's not about this being football. It's because those guys are friendly governments to western interests.

If they weren't there would be 10x the media and government noise for 1/10 the bad stuff (if it wasn't cancelled or boycotted altogether).

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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The title downplays this a lot. The first sentence in the article reads "Any extramarital sexual encounter (...) could result in a seven-year jail sentence." That usually means any sexual relation outside of marriage is forbidden, even between life partners.

I wonder how they would verify that with foreigners, especially those with a history of poor record-keeping. I surmise that there must be at least a couple of countries where a marriage certificate is nothing more than a plain sheet of copy paper with something along the lines of "I hereby declare that X and Y are married" in their local legalese. Although I can't help but snicker at the image of a bunch of poor cops…

"Although I can't help but snicker at the image of a bunch of poor cops desperately trying to memorize marriage certificates from around the world."

I do not think, this is how it works around there. "The poor cops" will have no problem locking anyone in, until they can proof in a way that pleases the cops, that their papers are allright.

I doubt this law will be enforced strictly as this would cause too much bad press, when important people(from rich western nations) are getting problems, but some poor workers are probably have to get their papers right, translated, locally certified, etc.

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how they can know? besides forbidding dating apps i don't think police officers will sit in the bars to make sure no one is going home with someone they just met. though the rules there are quite strict due to the fact this is islamic state

Such laws have some far-fetched, surprising (at least for Westerners) and very creepy consequences.

I've read a story about a Swedish girl that had been date-raped while staying on one of Gulf states. Having been used to European legal standards, she reported this incident to the police, only to find out that not only her case was dismissed, but she was found guilty of extramarital affair.

Creepy as hell.

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Isn't it safe to conclude he's talking about the host country of the World Cup?

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Sorry, Russia's invasion of Ukraine isn't a proxy for another country

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Adultery is also illegal in Dubai, yet it doesn't stop all the Emirati (plenty from Qatar and Saudi Arabia as well) to go have sex with white prostitutes in the so called biggest "yatching" hub in the world... the hypocrisy of these countries...

Its basically like Russia - rule by the law, not rule of law. Thats why the laws are so strict - they dont apply to the right people.

Every time someone in the west makes excuses for rule breaking by their government (and it. Usually seems to be the right that does so, so much for freedom), this is what they are moving towards.

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Interesting that with something as big as football, the organisers can get away with a lot of bad taste decisions. They can host wherever they want and they will be guaranteed a sufficient turnout thanks to the absolute massiveness of the fanbase. Woman's rights or workers rights in a faraway country? Fat load of nothing issues for many who want to see their country in the semis.

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Having thousands of “workers” die in order to host a high prestige sporting event is definitely bad taste.

Of course there are cultural differences as well, but modern-day Spartas with 90% permanent underclasses are fundamentally repugnant under any culture.

I’ll also note that in many of the wealthy Gulf states, the rules are so unequally enforced that the ruling people do enjoy many of the vices they supposedly disagree with in Western culture. There are other countries where cultural differences are in good faith, Qatar isn’t one of them.

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So countries that trample human and women rights (and everything that comes from it like child marriage, slavery etc) are just a matter of culture? No problems in the world then, just different culture?

Well, if you were raised X years ago or Y years in the future, when your own culture was OK with all/some of those things (e.g. in 1830s US South), then you'd be fine with them too (at least statistically: most would be).

So, yes, in a sense it's just a matter of culture. The universe doesn't care either way.

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