Funny. Exactly the opposite of what I always heard growing up: don't eat anything white. White bread, potatoes, rice, etc.
Potato diet community trial
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#52Half of the internet is people shouting that "carbs will kill you", and then there's people who argue that eating only carbs is the best idea ever.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that any extreme position is wrong. E.g. only carbs, no carbs at all, only meat, only plants.
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#53> It sounds like a dumb gimmick that could never work, but there are a surprising number of people out there saying that they tried it, it worked for them, and they kept the weight off for months or even years after. Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. In most cases it correlates because gaining weight is usually done through eating unhealthy (excess calories, refined sugars, etc.) so going on a healthy diet…
Sorry but this is not compatible with the clinical evidence base: https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/files/docs/guidelines/ob_gdlns.pdf
See page xxi, chapter A. Weight loss is recommended for lowering blood pressure, levels of total/LDL cholesterol, and blood glucose, and for blood pressure and blood glucose these effects have also been shown in RCTs with weight lowering medications, so we can't say they were due to more healthy diets alone.
See also this summary of evidence of the benefits of moderate (5-10%) weight loss: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5497590/
(saying that I agree with you that we shouldn't all adopt the cabbage soup diet, or potato-only diet for extended periods, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater)
(I wouldn't recommend the potato-only diet for someone who hasn't already attempted a healthy, balanced diet with consistent tracking, that should always be the first thing attempted as it can be continued indefinitely with less dependence on tracking over time, but some people find the effort of tracking hard to maintain)
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#54> It sounds like a dumb gimmick that could never work, but there are a surprising number of people out there saying that they tried it, it worked for them, and they kept the weight off for months or even years after. Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. In most cases it correlates because gaining weight is usually done through eating unhealthy (excess calories, refined sugars, etc.) so going on a healthy diet…
There is at least one case where your argument is clearly false: sleep apnea is often directly mechanically caused by bodyweight, causes health problems when untreated, and is strongly associated with being fat and/or muscular.
They never said being overweight is healthy, so this isn't really a counterargument.
They're saying losing weight != healthy, which isn't the same thing. Take anorexia or bulimia for example. You could be overweight, but that doesn't mean losing weight from an eating disorder is healthy. Same is true for a diet. Just because you're losing weight from a diet, doesn't mean the diet is healthy for you.
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#55One word of caution on these "only this diet". Your gut bacteria is a jungle with many species of microbes, trillions of them. They basically fight for territory and some subspecies will die if you stop injecting . So if you are not lactose intolerant and get off lactose for 6-9 months, don't expect that your belly will react well to a glass of milk in a year. I'm all for _reducing_ X and Y. But completely going pola…
Lactose intolerance is not nice, but perhaps not extremely dangerous either...
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#56> It sounds like a dumb gimmick that could never work, but there are a surprising number of people out there saying that they tried it, it worked for them, and they kept the weight off for months or even years after. Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. In most cases it correlates because gaining weight is usually done through eating unhealthy (excess calories, refined sugars, etc.) so going on a healthy diet…
> Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy
In many ways it certainly is. Knees don't go bad because they are carrying excess serum triglycerides that just happen to correlate with body mass.
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#57The article overlooked one essential macro-nutrient: fiber. Definitely lacking in a regular potato, even if one eats the skins. Also, sweet potatoes are not potatoes - different families, and different nutritional profiles. The former is considered a root, the latter a tuber. A well researched diet should be aware of these points.
Fiber is not a nutrient.
Fiber is increasingly being recognized as essential to gut health, so arguably it should be considered a nutrient. Classifying it differently risks omitting it from discussions (as we see in the article) and - vitally - food labeling.
Here's a discussion: https://www.jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(15)01743-8/ful...
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#58For those mentioning Gut Bacteria. https://joinzoe.com/learn/category/gut-health
(And I'm not affiliated or suggesting join, just read)
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#59“Potatoes, milk, butter and the occasional piece of meat” is apparently a nutritionally complete diet, but you need to be able to eat something like 10-lb of cooked potatoes a day, which is hard work and also not that inexpensive either.
Potatoes are cheap af what do you mean?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Your gut bacteria is a jungle with many species of microbes, trillions of them. To clarify: modern science estimates 300–1000 species in gut microbiota, 99% by number of cells coming from 30-40 species. The total number of microbial and viral cells throughout a healthy adult body is estimated at over 100 trillion, or roughly 10x the number of one's own body cells. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_microbiota
I really want a huge tech tree and flowchart of all the things these microbes love to eat and everything like that. Not really to provide an argument for only potatoes, but to perhaps have stronger ideas about the value of certain kinds of food I want to get beyond the boring "too much of anything is bad". Of course it is! That's what "too much" means!
http://biochemical-pathways.com
Well, have fun!