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Re: Potato diet community trial

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Post by basicplus2 »

TJSomething wrote: post #25
DeWilde wrote: post #4

> It sounds like a dumb gimmick that could never work, but there are a surprising number of people out there saying that they tried it, it worked for them, and they kept the weight off for months or even years after. Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. In most cases it correlates because gaining weight is usually done through eating unhealthy (excess calories, refined sugars, etc.) so going on a healthy diet…

> Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. Except that's not how it works. An excess of fat can directly cause problems. Above a certain point, having too much fat causes chronic hypoxia in fatty tissue, leading to chronic inflammation, which can eventually lead to systemic problems like insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease, kidney failure, liver disease, and cancer. Edit: I am specifically referring to abd…

It seems even flying at high altitudes can contribute to chronic hypoxia in fatty tissue! (particularly problematic with fat deposits in the liver)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12030379/

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Post by 2000UltraDeluxe »

TylerE wrote: post #17
sschueller wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't most Vitamin D "absorbed" (generated via sun light) via skin and only very little via diet?

In theory. In practice most people, especially at non-Tropical latitudes or who don’t spend multiple hours outside everyday don’t get nearly enough.

All day at Arctic latitudes, and that assumes your skin is somewhat lightly pigmented, and that you don't live too far north. If you do, there is no sunlight during winter.

If you've got a daytime job, live above the Arctic circle or immigrated, then your only option is to eat vitamin D-rich foods or eat supplements.

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Post by tomcam »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #6

i consider myself a potato connoisseur. i have been eating and loving potatoes ever since i can remember and even before as far as my family can tell me. "don't you get bored from eating potatoes"? i am asked on a regular basis. my answer is a standard "potatoes are life, potatoes are my comfort food. now get off my lawn" edit: i am willing to do an all potato diet but its not like i hate anything else, i just cant h…

When you say you are asked on a regular basis… What basis is that? Once a week? Once a month? I have never had anyone so interested in my diet and I am a little jealous. Also who are these people and what impels them to be so interested in what you are eating?

Re: Potato diet community trial

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Post by zerohp »

fractallyte wrote: post #26

The article overlooked one essential macro-nutrient: fiber. Definitely lacking in a regular potato, even if one eats the skins. Also, sweet potatoes are not potatoes - different families, and different nutritional profiles. The former is considered a root, the latter a tuber. A well researched diet should be aware of these points.

Fiber is not a nutrient.

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Post by dgfitz »

arghwhat wrote: post #40
TJSomething wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Losing weight isn't causal to being healthy. Except that's not how it works. An excess of fat can directly cause problems. Above a certain point, having too much fat causes chronic hypoxia in fatty tissue, leading to chronic inflammation, which can eventually lead to systemic problems like insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease, kidney failure, liver disease, and cancer. Edit: I am specifically referring to abd…

I don't think OP was suggesting that being overweight was healthy or that losing weight was bad. They merely suggested that weight loss does not occur as a result of a healthy diet, but rather as a result of an intentionally deficient diet (technically an "unhealthy" diet). That you can lose weight eating only potatoes is therefore not very interesting and does not imply that the diet is healthy.

> an intentionally deficient diet

Aren’t all diets whose goal is weight loss “intentionally deficient” ?

Re: Potato diet community trial

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Post by rtpg »

infofarmer wrote: post #29
keyle wrote: post #18

One word of caution on these "only this diet". Your gut bacteria is a jungle with many species of microbes, trillions of them. They basically fight for territory and some subspecies will die if you stop injecting . So if you are not lactose intolerant and get off lactose for 6-9 months, don't expect that your belly will react well to a glass of milk in a year. I'm all for _reducing_ X and Y. But completely going pola…

> Your gut bacteria is a jungle with many species of microbes, trillions of them. To clarify: modern science estimates 300–1000 species in gut microbiota, 99% by number of cells coming from 30-40 species. The total number of microbial and viral cells throughout a healthy adult body is estimated at over 100 trillion, or roughly 10x the number of one's own body cells. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_microbiota

I really want a huge tech tree and flowchart of all the things these microbes love to eat and everything like that. Not really to provide an argument for only potatoes, but to perhaps have stronger ideas about the value of certain kinds of food

I want to get beyond the boring "too much of anything is bad". Of course it is! That's what "too much" means!

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Post by mr_mitm »

implements wrote: post #38

“Potatoes, milk, butter and the occasional piece of meat” is apparently a nutritionally complete diet, but you need to be able to eat something like 10-lb of cooked potatoes a day, which is hard work and also not that inexpensive either.

More like 7lbs for an average man, but that's probably the point. You realistically can only eat something like 4lbs a day (I guess - I haven't tried), and thus you lose weight. If that amount is enough to make you feel full, that would plausibly explain why these people have success with this weight loss strategy.

Note that the article recommends refraining from consuming dairy products, albeit without any reasoning.

Re: Potato diet community trial

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Post by molszanski »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #14
fredsted wrote: post #7

I don't doubt this works, but I'd rather do e.g. keto where I can eat delicious meals and still feel fully satiated.

I did this for a year. Its not sustainable, you'll loose muscle mass. I eat potatoes daily now, but not exclusively - complex carbs are harder to burn, so they are fattening, so I have gained some weight. Maybe I'll eliminate the rice and see how that goes. I'd recommend against olive oil and for coconut oil, frying potatoes needs a lot of heat. Add parsley, bacon, caraway, onions and serve with pickled white cabbage…

Interesting. I am one year on mostly keto and lost all excessive fat and gained a lot (!) of muscle. And I seem to be burning fat and gain muscle at the same time.

One thing to note, I am not sure why would you suggest to remove olive oil. All the research (I’ve seen) suggests that olive oil is really good for humans

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