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#442When I try and sign up for it, I am presented with a "Confirm Payment Details" screen with no way to proceed.
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#443Imagining Steve Ballmer down in Hell laughing at all of us.
"They gave away all their code, so we packaged it up and sold it right back to them, the stupid bastards!"
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#444I've been using Copilot non-stop on every hobby project I have ever since they've let me in (2021/07/13) and I am honestly flabbergasted they think it's worth 10$/mo. My experience using it till this day is the following: - It's an amazing all-rounder autocomplete for most boilerplate code. Generally anything that someone who's spent 5 minutes reading the code can do, Copilot can do just as well. - It's terrible if y…
I'm genuinely curious: How do you value your time?
If you're an engineer who is paid $150/hour and Copilot saves you 5 minutes/month it just paid for itself.
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#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the cost of the infrastructure needed to run those large language models, it's very likely that Microsoft is still operating copilot at a loss. I don't see an issue with it being a paid service as it is a costly service to provide. What I pity however is that there's no free tier for hobbyists as paying a 10 usd monthly subscription wont make sense when you only code occasionally. For professionals using it eve…
GitHub Pro is $4/mo and includes 3000 minutes of CI compute per month (private repos), among all the other features. You’re not going to use 7500 minutes worth of compute a month with Copilot. I’ll certain pay up, though.
CI runs on CPUs, Copilot runs on GPUs. Waaaay different. Especially in this age of cryptocurrencies and chip shortages.
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#446I've been using Copilot non-stop on every hobby project I have ever since they've let me in (2021/07/13) and I am honestly flabbergasted they think it's worth 10$/mo. My experience using it till this day is the following: - It's an amazing all-rounder autocomplete for most boilerplate code. Generally anything that someone who's spent 5 minutes reading the code can do, Copilot can do just as well. - It's terrible if y…
> licensing concerns
I dismissed these concerns before I had early access.
Then, _literally the first characters I typed_ after enabling the extension were `//`, and it autosuggested:
// Copyright 2018 Google LLC
https://mobile.twitter.com/mrm/status/1410658969803051012/ph...
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#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
Previously discussed at length here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27773157 > or assure the developer, that the inserted/suggested code is not a verbatim copy of existing code No, it does not do that. > How can developers be sure, that they are not violating licenses by using Copilot There are no clear answers.
from Microsofts standpoint the shot across the bow for open source licenses is clear: do you have enough lawyers and experts to convince a gerontocracy of the legislative branch of the US government that its not "okay because its AI" because if you dont, then thanks for the code nerd.
If you think the US doesn't have enough existing legal theory on copyright to litigate this then you're crazy. It will be on MS to show that it isn't infringement.
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#448Guys you're getting a lot of bad comments for one simple reason. You failed your delivery. 1) You should have managed the expectations of the users in a better way. Tell them it will become a paid feature from the begining, so nobody gets surprised 2) The way everyone unsderstood this today was too aggresive. An infinite warning in visual studio saying "hey, i've stop working, please sign up and pay or uninstall me".…
It's still free with no payment for existing (beta/technical preview) customers. There was a github bug with some auth token nonsense that was causing problems, but all technical preview users should still be free for 60 days.
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#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
GPT-3 and AI-enhanced code completion has had a ton of hype going on, up to and including claims that software development as a job is at existential risk. Using Copilot non-stop to investigate and understand why there's so much hype and coming away with the opinion that it's not worthy of $10/mo is not contradictory. Would you rather someone who hasn't used a product extensively make value claims?
It’s always like this with the latest AI. You would think people would learn, but nope same exaggerated claims every time.
The claims are sound. It's the technology that is usually not sound, or mature.
But slowly enough many jobs are being automated, both with and without machine learning or whatever technique they are calling "AI" today.
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#450Earlier quoted context omitted.
My read was that it produces code that is correct in some circumstances, but is incorrect for the author's use case.
I realize I misinterpreted the OP, but you’ve set me up for a snarky remark so perfectly that I can’t resist. Please forgive me… here goes: > it produces code that is correct in some circumstances, but is incorrect for the author's use case. That’s a mighty convoluted way of saying “incorrect code” ;) Phew! I feel better, now!
"This code would be absolutely correct were it in a different program trying to achieve a different result."