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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Not to mention tons of people don’t even make realistic efforts (see: incels)

Women get bombarded with offers for sex when they put in 0 effort. Why blame men for not trying? If you have to try then it’s already over..

Spoken like a true man. Clearly you have no idea the additional things women have to do on a day to day basis to merely appear as if they are putting in "no effort"

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Podcasts changed the game for me on this. Now there are entire days where I never turn the TV on. A bonus is that I can get basic chores done while listening or workout. It really freed me from the couch potato routine. A bonus is that many of them are educational and released weekly, so "binge" isn't really an option. There are certainly "junk food" podcasts that I listen to but the ratio of informative to junk comp…

[META] List posts this long shouldn't be allowed, or at the very least be for exceptional circumstances only. Gratuitous use of screen space that could have been served perfectly fine with commas.

there's a little [-] icon at the end of every comment header, that's for collapsing comments (and their children) that take up too much space

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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I have to admit this part is hard for me to process. I know on an intellectual level that real life and fantasy are different things. But it's really hard to hear all day long from every source how terrible men are, and how we need to be gentler creatures. And then a shocking percentage of women actually do seem to want you to be that animal they decry as soon as you get into the bedroom.

You are unfortunately a victim of propaganda; many men today are. Women did not magically in the last 50 years override all biological instinct and traditional desires that they have had for millennia, even though media would like you to believe otherwise

whenever someone says "the media" has a single monolithic view, it seems to be that person demonstrating a persecution complex

I've seen tons of "the media" contradicting your point, but I guess if you said "some people say this, others don't", your point wouldn't be as compelling

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#614

Despite all others blaming it on entertainment, porn, alcohol, working etc, I blame online dating. The bar and amount of work needed to get into relationship (I'm not into casual sex) is just too high for great amount of people.

If you're a man and you don't have self esteem issues trying online dating is an excellent way to develop them. I tried it for maybe half a year. I'm decent looking, I have a good career, I'm tall enough that I get through most of the filters a lot of women put on height, I put effort into my profile and pictures. After all that I was ecstatic if I got even one match a week (and this was across three different apps). Maybe 25% of those resulted in conversations, none of those resulted in meeting up in real life.

Outside of online dating where are you even supposed to meet women now? I see women saying all the time they don't want to be approached in public. COVID decimated my already fairly meager pool of friends that I see regularly so opportunities to meet people through friends are few and far between. On top of that most women near my age (mid 30s) are already in long term relationships. At this point I've mostly given up, now I'm trying to accept that I'll likely spend the rest of my life alone. It sucks.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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>You list men as the reason why people have less sex, but unless women is having a lot of more sex with other women to compensate the numbers, Fewer men are sleeping with more women.

The source for the article cites both women and men. That said, if it is also true that fewer men are sleeping with more women then the cause of this can also be attributed to the choice of the women than the choice of men.

another possible explanation is that fewer men are competing in the dating pool at all

but assuming your hypothesis is correct, to what do you think that choice can be attributed?

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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*In the west. I think gender equality may be a big culprit. Take the US for example: women will dominate the college educated class soon if they haven't already, and with that economic freedom comes more optionality in choosing a partner, there are more choices to be had and there will be a self selection of the most desirable men (typically college educated as it correlates to income). This is not to blame women in…

Just to nitpick, it sounds like you mean "women in the workforce" and not (broader term) "gender equality" as being the reason for the decrease in sex.

It should be fair to say that careerism has resulted in less free time for family and less time for chores which also puts a damper on the bedroom when everyone argues over all the work that has to get done.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Three years ago a HN user named Dexwiz wrote something that hit me hard. I'd felt this, but I never saw it put in to words so well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20470085 """ The Screen and the Job have displaced almost everything else is our lives. Loneliness is just a primary symptom. The Screen, whether it’s TV, computer, or phone, has supplanted almost all social interactions. This manifests itself in thin…

Great insight! Another thing I came to realise is that current "social" media is extremely de-personalized (lack of a better term): back in the 80s and 90s, I participated in many public online places (I have always been shy in person). Those places (irc channels, WBS.net, ICQ, BBSs) were actually very social in that you actually made friendships. I travelled half the country after being invited to a Linux User Group…

Small dedicated communities where people know each other by (user)name are still around, but you have to hunt a little more.

The bigger issue is seemingly any community made up of nice people eventually pushes them all out when identity politics cry-bullies show up. It's happened to multiple communities I've been part of.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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I don't think the data they have is really as compelling as they think. It's self-reported from the National Opinion Research Center mostly. The trouble with self-reporting on things like sex is that (a) people lie about sex a lot and (b) social attitudes determine in what way people lie about sex. If you watch a sitcom from the 90s or early noughties, the idea that someone mightn't have had sex for _a few months_ is…

This "article" is an example of highly motivated reasoning. The first potential cause that he proposes of this "decades long 'phenomenon'" (yes, I'm doubing up on air quotes, sue me) is social distancing. Since the actual text is nonsense, I think it is reasonable to substitute it with the subtext, "Men aren't men and haven't been since 1950, and it's because of the democrats". He's free to write an article about thi…

yeah, the whole "affirmative consent is too difficult for men these days" angle seems like projection from someone upset that consent is necessary for sex

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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I understand what you're trying to convey and I'm sorry but it's just not true. Brain scans show the pathways for porn addiction are very similar to those found in cocain and amphetamine addicts. Perhaps this is true for you, but don't discredit porn addiction as not a "real addiction" when it's an established fact that it is one on par with substance abuse.

Established fact? Not according to the American Psychological Association [1] A brain scans showing a similar response to other pleasure stimula is far from "addiction". GP has a valid point. Blaming porn for sex issues is an oversimplification of a very complex issue involving deep interpersonal dynamics. [1] https://www.insider.com/guides/health/mental-health/porn-add...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050060/

I didn't blame porn alone, but I said I wouldn't discount it's contribution to the issue as GP did. I agree it's a complex issue.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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post #458

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Women get bombarded with offers for sex when they put in 0 effort. Why blame men for not trying? If you have to try then it’s already over..

Spoken like a true man. Clearly you have no idea the additional things women have to do on a day to day basis to merely appear as if they are putting in "no effort"

Make a tinder account with an ugly woman and you will see that I’m right
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