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Re: Deno raises $21M

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The color changing on this page gives me a migraine: https://deno.com/deploy I like Deno in principle, but I'd love to see how Slack, Github and Netlify are using it.

Funny thing is after looking at it for a bit, I'd _swear_ HN is changing colors now.

Same, and a bit of a persistent queasy feeling. I think it’s something to do with how it’s slightly off white but pulsing, so your brain tries to cancel it out.

It reminds me of the feeling after surfing when you lie in bed with your eyes closed and still feel the waves going up and down.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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> Early in cloud computing, virtual machines were the compute abstraction […] This is funny to me because serverless sounds to me like the return of PHP (etc) shared hosting. What's old is new again?

It’s amusing to see a whole generation of senior developers (“senior” as in 5+ years of experience) that haven’t experienced web development without React[0] and who proceed to reinvent PHP/ASP.NET/RoR. [0] Used here as shorthand for “modern js driven development”

Another developer here who’s been around for the tech you mention.

The evolution has been 2 steps forward but 1 step back. It’s how many complex systems evolve and it’s fine. Just because you see that some problems/solutions resemble what you saw 10 years ago doesn’t mean nothing was improved along the way.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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This question is going to make me sound like a jerk, but why do you want to write your back-end in JS? Deno looks like a great improvement over node.js, but I don't feel compelled to use it. It seems like people jumped to node based on some performance promises that didn't really pay off (IMO). And since then, we have newer options like Rust, Go, and Elixir as performant back-end options, and even older choices like…

I like TypeScript and would like to write backends in TypeScript. I'm coming around on Elixir. I never want to write Go that interacts with a database again. Rust seems complicated. I don't think I'm smart or committed enough to get anywhere with rust.

> Rust seems complicated. I don't think I'm smart or committed enough to get anywhere with rust.

Rust is a bit rough yet to do the front and backend development, but IMHO it will catch in a year or two. Also for backend rust now with (actix and axum) looks pretty similar to expressjs, so you will feel like home there, but for the frontend there's still no killer framework nor a settled architecture that fits better rust model.

Re: Deno raises $21M

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I'm not deep in Node world but I use it and see it being used, who is using Deno out there? Have there been some notable/major ship jumps? Or is it not that kind of situation (perception from when it came on the scene is that's exactly what it is, constantly trying to woo Node devs over). And also there's alot of recognizable brand competition out there from things like Cloudflare, Netlify (but they're an investor in this?), Vercel on fire the last year or two, and not to mention the big FAANG types. Again, who's using this?

Re: Deno raises $21M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You don’t get $21M from investors for nothing. Do you think that investors see every company that isn't a unicorn as "nothing"? I think you're living in a fairytale

If you're a venture capitalist, this is in fact the model.

If they’re expecting a unicorn why are they funding Deno?

Re: Deno raises $21M

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As a Deno fan I was surprised to learn that the free tier for Deno Deploy includes 100k requests per day and 100GB of bandwidth monthly. I know I'll be trying it out now.

I think Deno Deploy and using Deno on fly.io could be a powerful combo. Deno has some advantages that definitely lend themselves to having control of your entire MicroVMs. An app could easily be split between serverless-friendly and non-serverless-friendly parts of the stack by using both together.
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