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Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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I really don't like this. The foundation already has many multiples more money than it needs to cover its core goal: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais... This can, at best, be useless, at worst, corrupt its mission to serve corporations.

There used to be an expression "don't fix what ain't broke." I feel like this old maxim is now completely ignored.

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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I really don't like this. The foundation already has many multiples more money than it needs to cover its core goal: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais... This can, at best, be useless, at worst, corrupt its mission to serve corporations. There used to be an expression "don't fix what ain't broke." I feel like this old maxim is now completely ignored.

Why would an organization limit the amount of money they have?

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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I really don't like this. The foundation already has many multiples more money than it needs to cover its core goal: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais... This can, at best, be useless, at worst, corrupt its mission to serve corporations. There used to be an expression "don't fix what ain't broke." I feel like this old maxim is now completely ignored.

Why would an organization limit the amount of money they have?

Because it’s unnecessary and brings outside influences that could corrupt it’s stated goals

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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So now, if a Google related Wikipedia article has something added to it that Google doesn’t like, they can suggest to Wikimedia they might not renew their contract unless things are “made right”

Google is just one example of this. Any company now has a pathway to do so.

I think this is terrible incentives, and destroys the goal of having an Encyclopedia free from interference where only truth can come through

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would an organization limit the amount of money they have?

Because it’s unnecessary and brings outside influences that could corrupt it’s stated goals

You can be corrupt without having a lot of money. There are countless examples of such.

I applaud the their moves. The more money they have, the more likely they are to exist in perpetuity.

Needlessly limiting their revenue isn’t going to solve anything.

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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post #5

So now, if a Google related Wikipedia article has something added to it that Google doesn’t like, they can suggest to Wikimedia they might not renew their contract unless things are “made right” Google is just one example of this. Any company now has a pathway to do so. I think this is terrible incentives, and destroys the goal of having an Encyclopedia free from interference where only truth can come through

Google could already do this per your hypothetical given that Google donates millions.

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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I really don't like this. The foundation already has many multiples more money than it needs to cover its core goal: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais... This can, at best, be useless, at worst, corrupt its mission to serve corporations. There used to be an expression "don't fix what ain't broke." I feel like this old maxim is now completely ignored.

Why would an organization limit the amount of money they have?

I think it's a bit worse than that though.

Why does an organisation that has more than enough money to achieve its current and long term goals, appeal to their site visitors that they really need more money? The ads are in my opinion dishonest and emotionally manipulative, and have actively put me off supporting Wikimedia as a foundation.

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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post #5

So now, if a Google related Wikipedia article has something added to it that Google doesn’t like, they can suggest to Wikimedia they might not renew their contract unless things are “made right” Google is just one example of this. Any company now has a pathway to do so. I think this is terrible incentives, and destroys the goal of having an Encyclopedia free from interference where only truth can come through

Alternatively, Google can modify their copy of whatever they take from Wikipedia and display to their users. The license permits this. They don't need Wikipedia to change anything.

Re: Wikimedia Enterprise announces Google and Internet Archive as first customers

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would an organization limit the amount of money they have?

I think it's a bit worse than that though. Why does an organisation that has more than enough money to achieve its current and long term goals, appeal to their site visitors that they really need more money? The ads are in my opinion dishonest and emotionally manipulative, and have actively put me off supporting Wikimedia as a foundation.

Goals can be expanded to infinity, uncertainty and inflation is always a thing, thus the need to diversify revenue streams to ensure survival and sustainability.
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