This has probably been talked about but...
If most code is "bad" code (any definition works) and this AI was trained on all/most code on GitHub, does that mean that this AI mostly helps to produces bad code?
GitHub Copilot is generally available
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#112I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.
> has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself Sure it has: Time. In terms of economics it's really simple: Does Copilot free up more than 10$ worth of your time per month? If the product works at all as I understand it (I haven't tried), the answer should be a resounding "yes, and then some" for pretty much any SE, given the current market rates. If the answer is no (for example because it pro…
Yeah it's just practicality for me. There is software I pay a lot more for that I use a lot less.
$100/year is a steal for the amount of tedious code copilot helps me with on a daily basis.
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#113Has anyone been able to sign up since this announcement? I get to a "Confirm your payment details" screen, but there is no further action I can take (ie: no button to press or link to click to "confirm"). It does say "You will be billed $100/year starting August 20, 2022" -- but when I view my "settings", it tells me I haven't signed up for copilot. I tried various browsers, including Edge on Windows 10 sans plugins…
There are some GitHub problems that are getting addressed right now.
Ah, victims of their own success? Glad to see people are lining up to pay for it :-)
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#114Insta buy for me (expense hopefully). I am just continuously mind blown by it, and I quickly notice and get frustrated when it's not enabled. It really is giving coders superpowers. EDIT: looks like I'm getting it for free because of my contributions to open source o.o dope!
Yeah can't live without it anymore. It's already muscle memory to intuitively pausing typing, just waiting for Copilot to complete my line. Pretty good sense on what it should get right too. Knew this was gonna be a $10/month thing. oh well.
Hope though, when AI is becoming increasingly useful and seamlessly integrated, they not gonna take an arm and leg for it. It's just gonna be way too good to pass, people won't really have a choice but pay.
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#115I've been using Copilot for a while now. I'm lucky that I don't have to pay moving forward but I would totally pay $10/mo for this. When writing tests, this thing works so well that it saves me 10-20% time writing code so $10 is nothing.
> I'm lucky that I don't have to pay moving forward but I would totally pay $10/mo for this.
How? I was in beta but looks like I'm kicked out. I also verified my student status but get prompted to pay. Are you a maintainer? Have you verified that you have access?
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
You really only need one example to offset this anecdote, so here you are: https://mobile.twitter.com/mitsuhiko/status/1410886329924194... Copyright violations are a genuine concern from the outputted code, GitHub themselves have admitted it may emit raw training data rarely.
There is logic to ensure that copilot does not emit exact duplicates of code in the training set... but that logic is significantly newer than that tweet.
Link? I couldn't find anything "significantly newer" than 7/2/21 (though I'm sure GitHub is doing a lot here). They had this blog post 6/30/21 regarding efforts on avoiding raw code: https://github.blog/2021-06-30-github-copilot-research-recit.... They concluded:
> We will both continue to work on decreasing rates of recitation, as well as making its detection more precise.
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#117My unpopular take: most comments here are super entitled. To paraphrase: "sure it's minblowing and the biggest productivity gain in years, but I want it FREE". Yes. You got used to it being free. And now it's not. But $10/mo is a steal. It's more than fair and far, far less than they could get. And no. They don't owe you anything. In fact, they probably host your code (often free), and less directly provide your IDE…
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#118Does Copilot already display the licenses of the code it might insert/suggest, or assure the developer, that the inserted/suggested code is not a verbatim copy of existing code? How can developers be sure, that they are not violating licenses by using Copilot?
My sincere question is what if a developer looks at some GPL code, and then that developer encounters a situation in a corporate project where-in he uses the GPL code from memory, is that already a violation? So to avoid a violation a developer needs to perform a mind-wipe?
> that developer encounters a situation in a corporate project where-in he uses the GPL code from memory
If you draw Micky Mouse from memory, Disney still owns the copyright.
Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available
#119My unpopular take: most comments here are super entitled. To paraphrase: "sure it's minblowing and the biggest productivity gain in years, but I want it FREE". Yes. You got used to it being free. And now it's not. But $10/mo is a steal. It's more than fair and far, far less than they could get. And no. They don't owe you anything. In fact, they probably host your code (often free), and less directly provide your IDE…
I do think they should pay the folks whose code they used to train the AI. Something like how Spotify pays artists based on how much their music/content is listened to.
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#120I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.
+1 on ickyness