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Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#92
I've been using Copilot for a while now. I'm lucky that I don't have to pay moving forward but I would totally pay $10/mo for this. When writing tests, this thing works so well that it saves me 10-20% time writing code so $10 is nothing.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#93

I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

> has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself Sure it has: Time. In terms of economics it's really simple: Does Copilot free up more than 10$ worth of your time per month? If the product works at all as I understand it (I haven't tried), the answer should be a resounding "yes, and then some" for pretty much any SE, given the current market rates. If the answer is no (for example because it pro…

I want to love github co-pilot, but its just not there yet. For trivial stuff it's great, but for anything non-trivial it's always wrong. Always.

And my problem is : Time.

Cycling through false positives and trying to figure out if it's right costs me way more than $10 a month in productivity.

I cant wait for better versions to come out, but right now, no.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#94
post #76

I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

Given the cost of the infrastructure needed to run those large language models, it's very likely that Microsoft is still operating copilot at a loss. I don't see an issue with it being a paid service as it is a costly service to provide. What I pity however is that there's no free tier for hobbyists as paying a 10 usd monthly subscription wont make sense when you only code occasionally. For professionals using it eve…

It’d be nice if they made it free if the upstream repo is published publicly under an open source license. They have all that info already.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#95
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> suggest patterns in the same codebase that you're working Sometimes, with variable results. I think I've only observed it guess patterns from the current directory > Does copilot work for shell scripts? Yes, it gave me this earlier today while editing my .zshrc: # kill a process on a given port killport() { lsof -i :$1 | awk 'NR!=1 {print $2}' | xargs kill }

Can't wait for someone to integrate this into a shell. Does anyone know if such a project exists?

Integrating into a shell, for immediate execution, seems very very dangerous. You still need to carefully test/scrutinize everything that comes from copilot.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#96
post #78

I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

> Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output. "open source is great, except when it's used in a way I don't like"

Yes. It is completely valid, understandable, and reasonable to have a variety of different feelings and views about how specific code and specific licenses are used.

This is particularly the case when we see the emergence of new technologies that use it in different ways. Different people may have a wide variety of equally valid views about how it is incorporated into that system.

There's nothing inconsistent, confusing, or complex about those views.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

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At a minimum, 4.3k stars is not enough, because I don't qualify.

This is curious - I maintain 2 projects with 2k cumulative stars, and I was able to claim the free access. Wonder what the metric is? Maybe creation date has something to do with it?

If you want to check if you qualify: https://github.com/github-copilot/free_signup

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#98

I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

> Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

The business model for most of the Internet is to bait people into using things for free and then monetize them without compensation in some roundabout way.

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#99

I've enjoyed using it for free, but not sure it's worth the $10/mo yet. When it works great, it's a nice-to-have for speeding up development but has yet to give me anything I wouldn't be able to just write myself. And when I wish it would give me the answer to something I don't know how to do, it spits out something very wrong. Also feels kind of icky to train on open source projects and then charge for the output.

I already have it in my visual studio code. I do like it. Will it stop working for me now?

Re: GitHub Copilot is generally available

#100
My unpopular take: most comments here are super entitled.

To paraphrase: "sure it's minblowing and the biggest productivity gain in years, but I want it FREE".

Yes. You got used to it being free. And now it's not. But $10/mo is a steal. It's more than fair and far, far less than they could get.

And no. They don't owe you anything.

In fact, they probably host your code (often free), and less directly provide your IDE (for free). So this idea that they owe you something needs to be reassessed.

CoPilot is easily worth it and I think this is fair. I actually welcome it because I was nervous it might be like 80.

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