Cloudflare had a partial outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by Gigachad » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

donkarma wrote: post #3

turns out having a central failure point for the entire web was a bad idea

I wonder if it really was though. I’d think that these centralised services go down less than the self hosted stuff previously. Is it better to have more overall uptime but downtime means everything stops, or random downtimes of individual sites that adds up to more downtime.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by buro9 » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

mwcampbell wrote: post #82

At times like this and the big Fastly outage roughly a year ago, choosing to host on a simple, independent bare-metal box doesn't seem like such a bad strategy (as long as one has backups for disaster recovery, of course). Sure, other things can cause downtime in that kind of infrastructure, but at least my service isn't likely to be taken offline by someone else's configuration error or deployment gone wrong.

I'm on Linode.

Linode is down because Cloudflare is down.

Can't login to their control panel, etc.

You'd need to go fully independent and roll your own, with zero dependencies, to really make this work.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by liveprogramming » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

- Encrypted DNS seems to be having issues (very slow resolution, if any)

- Having issues connecting to GitHub (Could be they are using CF, or could be DNS issue - but I'm able to connect fine to Google services)

- Twitter loads, but all images fail to resolve

- https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ loads very slowly, and no assets (CSS, images, etc) load

EDIT from CF :: The issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented. Posted Jun 21, 2022 - 06:57 UTC

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by deadalus » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

Had a hard time trusting Cloudflare since they blocked 8chan due to political activism.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by woojoo666 » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

Wow lots of websites are affected, including Medium. The perils of centralization strike again. Though ironically, I noticed that the IPFS website uses cloudflare as well. The actual IPFS network is working just fine though, and I'm not aware of IPFS ever having any global outages. Though then again, I'm not aware of any on bittorrent either

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by noobermin » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

selcuka wrote: post #95

noobermin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone should a website that collates the approx. 90M times this sentiment has been made on this website (a good chunk of me making it) just a reminder how nothing somehow changes on this front the moment it comes back up and people go back to relying on single SAAS's for everything.

To be fair this is not relying on a single SaaS for everything but many people relying on a single SaaS. I mean if you want to use a reverse proxy/CDN, you must rely on someone .

Yes, sorry my rant was more like "everything relies on a single SaaS" rather than the SaaS doing everything, just mixed up the phrasing

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

#107

Post by 44gg44gg » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

RobinUS2 wrote: post #40

is it just DNS?

firefox DOH uses cloudflare and nextdns. nextdns is down as well

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by lesmond » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #54

Yes, not worldwide but a lot of places. Problem with our backbone. We know what. Rollbacks etc. happening. Bring it back up in chunks. Should be back up everywhere.

Enterprise support has been useless as is the status page. Got more info here

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by halotrope » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #54

Yes, not worldwide but a lot of places. Problem with our backbone. We know what. Rollbacks etc. happening. Bring it back up in chunks. Should be back up everywhere.

Thank you! This little comment just saved me an hour of investigation. Good luck for getting the system back up asap.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Post by saurik » Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

donkarma wrote: post #68

noobermin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone should a website that collates the approx. 90M times this sentiment has been made on this website (a good chunk of me making it) just a reminder how nothing somehow changes on this front the moment it comes back up and people go back to relying on single SAAS's for everything.

I wonder how long Cloudflare would have to be down for to have a noticeable change

I remember when some key part of AWS EC2--EBS in us-east-1 maybe?--was down for a few days straight. Honestly, the main thing it taught me was "if you are honest with your customers they will mostly just come back later and buy everything they didn't buy today".