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Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by teh_klev »

fartcannon wrote: post #469
teh_klev wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd[sic] by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows. Every one of their videos clearly mention who the sponsors are i.e. the "sponsored showcase" videos. And when they're not those types of videos, but just have regular advertising, they say out loud and clear "and this segway's to our sponsor...". I'm not shilling fo…

How do you know what he's saying isn't only half truths? You just trust him. I have seen enough of his behaviour over the years to prefer to see his videos as comedy. That's all.

You clearly have an axe to grind and there's no point in me wasting more time discussing this with you. Good night, and good luck.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by breput »

steamer25 wrote: post #458
breput wrote: post #111

Big Clive made a video and wrote an OpenSCAD script[0] which allows you to 3D print a base and adapter to convert a regular 120mm computer fan into a "true" HEPA air purifier. You might already have a spare 120mm fan laying around - I am using a $8 ARCTIC P12 fan[1] which is very quiet and is designed to work with high static pressure. The generic filters[2] are two for $17, (supposedly) H13 grade, available from a n…

Matthias Wandel recently did some experiments over several options. A decent furnace filter, when duct-taped to a box-fan, did surprisingly well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDZ9yUdM2wA It turned out that my local hardware store had a similar pre-manufactured offering with a slightly less Jerry-rigged aesthetic. We bought one for my son's allergies but I also noticed an improvement on the whole upper floor of our…

There seems to be two main use cases for a room-sized air purifier:

If you live in a polluted city or are affected by wildfires, having a box fan-sized model is almost a necessity. It is going to be noisy and unsightly but undeniably more effective. Having a few furnace filters laying around for air quality emergencies is probably not a bad idea.

For day to day use in a low pollution area, where dust or pollen is the major concern, I really like the little 120mm fan purifier. It runs 24/7, unobtrusively, and is really effective for what it does.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by dhzhzjsbevs »

fartcannon wrote: post #470
dhzhzjsbevs wrote: post #462

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It's silly because it isn't a valid point. Linus flip flopping on those brands is precisely why he isn't suffering from fanboyitis. It's kind of rediculous to claim he's a fanboy in one sentence then claim he's just a shill in the next when the evidence contradicts your first statement.

Well, again, I disagree. It's ridiculous to see a behaviour with your own eyes and then choose to believe it's the opposite.

What behavior exactly? Got receipts?

Because from what I see he's both called Intel on it's bullshit and still worked with them on a professional level.

Same for amd.

As for apple, they funded a whole new Apple channel without Linus precisely because he knows he couldn't be unbias.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

p1necone wrote: post #436
fartcannon wrote: post #435

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I disagree that it's silly. I think that's unfairly dismissive of a valid point when he is paid money to advertise for those companies and we are discussing the validity of his reviews of that equipment.

LTT very clearly demarcates which videos are sponsored and which are not.

How do you know that that's everything? It's just taking their word.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

criley2 wrote: post #459
fartcannon wrote: post #454

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Salacious is a bit of a salicous word for doubting their reviewer credibility. I get it. You disagree with me. I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

Salacious is an eminently accurate word for your string of source-less comments describing your feelings about their advertisements under the guise of actual accusations of wrongdoing. I don't "disagree with you", I dismiss you. I provided an accurate description of their financials and incentives and demonstrated that your salacious claims literally don't make sense. This is good and normal! We should always dismiss…

Now you're just being rude.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

teh_klev wrote: post #461
fartcannon wrote: post #454

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Salacious is a bit of a salicous word for doubting their reviewer credibility. I get it. You disagree with me. I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

> I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days. Oh c'mon. The guy is just a YouTube celeb like hundreds of others and easily disposable, what is this "power" he wields?

On the most recent wan show, his fans located and harassed an ex employee of the new facility he bought because he was mildly perturbed over the state of the building. That's some unchecked power.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by sizzle »

Since we are among experts here, please recommend the best air filters available to retail customers and I will gladly whatever price for the peace of mind, since I am not an expert and trust sites like Wirecutter over Amazon type of reviews.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

teh_klev wrote: post #471
fartcannon wrote: post #469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know what he's saying isn't only half truths? You just trust him. I have seen enough of his behaviour over the years to prefer to see his videos as comedy. That's all.

You clearly have an axe to grind and there's no point in me wasting more time discussing this with you. Good night, and good luck.

It's just a conversation on the internet, my friend. I thank you for your contribution and apologise if I offended you.

Goodnight and good luck to you too.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by tapland »

McAtNite wrote: post #272
mrkwse wrote: post #70

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It will be interesting if LMG can pull off what Linus is aiming for with the massive investment in a laboratory environment. There are huge parts of the tech market where the most critical reviewing you can find is anecdotal accounts of if the reviewer liked a product or not (or the more clinical reviews are drowned out by the anecdotal noise).

It will be nice if they do come up with an experiment based approach to reviews. Personally I really enjoy Gamer Nexus since they already do this. Their coverage of the Nvidia cooler design change was really interesting to watch, and they went into depth on their testing methodology with both its strengths and weaknesses. Their channel really convinced me to take a more critical look at other “reviews” and how they c…

And GN has someine making graphs who knows how to make them readable.

In LMG videos the graphs could be really crazy, though I haven't watched them for a while now.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

dhzhzjsbevs wrote: post #473
fartcannon wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, again, I disagree. It's ridiculous to see a behaviour with your own eyes and then choose to believe it's the opposite.

What behavior exactly? Got receipts? Because from what I see he's both called Intel on it's bullshit and still worked with them on a professional level. Same for amd. As for apple, they funded a whole new Apple channel without Linus precisely because he knows he couldn't be unbias.

Yes, and I agree that you can see those actions as being contrary to my proposed scenario. I sort of see them as evidence in the other direction, but it's good to hear it said out loud. Makes good food for thought.
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