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We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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> convenience comes at a cost and we no longer think this is an acceptable trade-off. In an age where dissertations about what color and position to use for buttons go pages long, that's a courageous position that follows a clear strategy. Kudos!

I think its also good for Mullvad, they push people towards the 1y plan instead. No one is going to put their payment info in every single month.

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Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

https://www.ivpn.net/ also generates a random userid and also accepts cash in the mail (only for large purchases unfortunately). I wasn't able to get mullvad's multihop to work on Android, but iVPN Pro does the trick. iVPN also has a nice server status page that helps you optimize for speed (low load server) or anonymity (high load server) as appropriate: https://www.ivpn.net/status/ They have a weird "anti-marketing" homepage which devotes almost equal space to explaining why you should not buy their product :-P

Perfect Privacy accepts a gift card (more convenient than mailed cash IMO) and has a nifty "neurorouting" feature which aims to be better than standard multihop (claims of speed, at least, I can attest to). They do ask for an email address, sadly, unlike iVPN/Mullvad. Also I just saw this and it looks a bit worrisome https://www.security.org/privacy-guide/perfect-privacy/

Both iVPN and PP let you block various trackers / MANGA corps at the network level.

I like Mullvad but it seems good to support a diversity of providers. Curious if anyone has any dirt on either of those two, or if they can make more recommendations.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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post #51
post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

> You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up

If I wanted to self-host a VPN, I would still need to pay for a cloud provider.

Is there an equivalent cash (snail mail) offering for hosting?

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Tip:

This portable secure travel router supports MullVad (and Azire-VPN) out of the box:

https://www.amazon.com/GL-iNet-GL-MT1300-Wireless-Pocket-Siz...

Just input your Mullvad account number and it will upload all WireGuard configurations for all MullVad servers worldwide automatically.

Perfect to use to connect to any unsecure Wi-Fi and drive all traffic via VPN in hotels, airports, coffee shops, etc...

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of them have been gobbled up by Kape or otherwise proven to keep logs/data when they claim they don't https://restoreprivacy.com/kape-technologies-owns-expressvpn...

Oh man I thought Private Internet Access was still one of the independent VPNs. I feel duped. :/

PIA continues to prove in court over and over again that they do not keep traffic logs. The extreme fear mongering over Kape has never been backed up by any evidence other than "they used to do bad things under their previous management." As I always say in these threads, all the people who shill Mullvad over everything probably just use them for web-browsing or adjacent activities, and not anything that requires a specialty product like p2p or bypassing national firewalls.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

> You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up If I wanted to self-host a VPN, I would still need to pay for a cloud provider. Is there an equivalent cash (snail mail) offering for hosting?

nearlyfreespeech.net

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Absolutely no way to know they are good and other is bad. The entire VPN industry is “trust us bro”. Which works until it doesn’t.

Would a 3rd party audit work? https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2021/1/20/no-pii-or-privacy-leak...

audits are only valid for that one instant in time when it was performed. anything could have changed after the fact.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

> You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up If I wanted to self-host a VPN, I would still need to pay for a cloud provider. Is there an equivalent cash (snail mail) offering for hosting?

>I would still need to pay for a cloud provider.

both google and oracle offer small, perpetually free VM instances.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Refunds and disputes can happen way after a week right? I've seen disputes 120+ days after a transaction.

I mean, maybe they won't be affected by this but they sort of suggest after a few weeks you could dispute the charge and they would have no idea it was you.

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