Live data from Hacker News

I fucking hate Jira

ifuckinghatejira.com

61–70 of 539 posts

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#63

What are some alternatives to JIRA? Also, how much of the hate directed towards JIRA buried resentment towards Agile and other project management paradigms?

Backlog by Nulab is pretty much all the good features of Jira distilled down into a simple product. I've used it and been very happy with it. https://nulab.com/products/backlog/

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#64
post #2

I'm sometimes kind of surprised at how often I see people say they don't mind it. It's by far the tool I like the least out of everything I've used at any job I've ever been in.

There's lots of worse shit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_version-control_softwa.... I remember IBM ClearCase in particular as vile.

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#65
post #2

I'm sometimes kind of surprised at how often I see people say they don't mind it. It's by far the tool I like the least out of everything I've used at any job I've ever been in.

What tools do you like the most?

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#66
Jira drives me crazy. Why do I need to mark an epic as closed two different ways? Why is it really difficult to see what tickets were in a closed sprint? Why is it so slow or why does it sometimes get in infinite reload loop? Features randomly break like the ability to create tickets from confluence. My company is locked in and I doubt we would change, I just wish Atlassian focused on performance and consistency

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#67

Jira is the worst possible choice, except for all the others.

I was honestly really pleased when we moved to Jira at a previous job, having lived through three other worse ticket systems. It’s just more powerful, and has ways of keeping tickets from falling into a black hole. None of that is an excuse for the slow, terrible frontend for Jira, or the complete lack of discoverability in Confluence.

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#68

Jira is the worst possible choice, except for all the others.

Has anyone tried to use something like notion? Depending on your size you don't necessarily need all the stuff around it. Whats the difference between a story and an epoch? Most people don't really care. They just need something to track stuff being done, like a glorified to-do list with rich text.

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#69
post #4

I wish the comments were more specific about which features they don’t like. For me a particularly frustrating aspect is the way the UI moves around a lot. I’m quite anxious to click anything until all the loading spinners have stopped in case I click the wrong thing. Then I could be taken to a page or feature I’ve never seen before. Also it’s really annoying when I try to copy something from a ticket description but…

> I wish the comments were more specific about which features they don’t like.

I have a very specific complaint: the ease which all sorts of custom fields can be added for _everyone_. Sales will want to add a field to hold their contract status. Lo and behold, engineering now has it. It can be done in the proper way, but it seems that doing it at a global level is easier since that's how multiple Jira installations at multiple companies were configured.

All I want is a ticket, with a title, description, assignee, the current status, an easy way to transition, and comments. That's it. Let my project _opt out_ of any global customization if making global stuff is unavoidable.

Also, the newest Jira UX is... terrible. Tickets should not be THAT easy to edit. How often do we want to change a ticket's description, or title? I'd say, not often. If we do, there's really no harm in having an "edit" button. Old Jira versions had one.

Re: I fucking hate Jira

#70

What are some alternatives to JIRA? Also, how much of the hate directed towards JIRA buried resentment towards Agile and other project management paradigms?

>Agile >resentment

Yup.. at least fake agile... where every "sprint" is the same length and features aren't customer-oriented.

Post reply on HN