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Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by garmain » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

ethbr0 wrote: post #16

chriswarbo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s pretty convenient as the time periods uses the format YYYY-MM-DD/YYYY-MM-DD and I think is easier to mentally parse than MM/DD/YYYY-MM/DD/YYYY Especially for those outside the USA!

As someone who grew up in the US, it's still bizarre as a programmer to have a mixed-significance ordering (MM-DD-YYYY) instead of any consistently-endian ordering (DD-MM-YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD). Out of curiosity, in what order do Europeans verbally say full dates with month names? Or does it vary by language?

In German, Dutch I'll use "twenty June twenty-twentytwo". In English "twentieth of June twenty-twentytwo

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by ivanjermakov » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

Good job! Would like to see it as an independent file format and tools like external editor support and cli compiler (to html/pdf/svg etc.)

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by captbaritone » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

Looks similar to Mermaid-js's Gantt chart support: https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid/#/gantt

Once nice thing about Mermaid is it's built into [GitHub's markdown](https://github.blog/2022-02-14-include-diagrams-markdown-fil...) and has support in Notion

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by JoshTriplett » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:00 PM UTC

koch wrote: post #12

prepend wrote: post #9

This looks neat. I wish it used iso8601 [0] dates. It’s pretty convenient as the time periods uses the format YYYY-MM-DD/YYYY-MM-DD and I think is easier to mentally parse than MM/DD/YYYY-MM/DD/YYYY. Of course I didn’t even know what a solidus (“/“) was until using iso8601. Also, I usually find standards pretty much as overhead, but 8601 seems pretty good as a universal standard. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO…

Yeah, so long form 8601 are supported `2022-08-02T23:00:00.000Z - 2022-08-03T00:00:00.000Z: Event` but in general I do need to figure out a way to allow more customizable date parsing.[0] [0] https://github.com/kochrt/markwhen/issues/27

I would definitely like to use YYYY-MM or YYYY-MM-DD, ideally without any additional configuration required.

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by koch » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:01 PM UTC

laurent123456 wrote: post #27

Can the renderer be used separately to embed in other editors?

Not right now, but it's something I've been thinking about, in addition to separating the parser out

https://github.com/kochrt/markwhen/issues/32

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by koch » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:05 PM UTC

jzig wrote: post #11

Very interesting. Why is there work inside of the education sections of the life timeline? In the project planning example, I could see it being useful to have something like $ref references from Swagger to e.g. reference a duration from a project group into the overall section.

There are relative dates, so you can refer to previous events when defining new ones: https://markwhen.com/docs#relative-dates

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by chriswarbo » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:07 PM UTC

jiehong wrote: post #23

ethbr0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who grew up in the US, it's still bizarre as a programmer to have a mixed-significance ordering (MM-DD-YYYY) instead of any consistently-endian ordering (DD-MM-YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD). Out of curiosity, in what order do Europeans verbally say full dates with month names? Or does it vary by language?

It does vary by language, but Roman languages (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) say the 4th of July. Same in German. In Polish, it’s the same, except for official matters since 2002, which now follows ISO8601. Even in the UK they commonly say the 5th of May, and not May, the 5th (but it does happen). I can’t talk about other languages.

> not May, the 5th (but it does happen)

The only time I see this is in the UK is on movie posters/trailer, e.g. "In cinemas May 5th", which I assume is due to re-using the US material.

PS: 5th of May is a degenerate example, since it's 05/05 regardless of ordering

PPS: 5th of May is also my birthday ;)

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by darknavi » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:08 PM UTC

pluc wrote: post #25

Someone at Microsoft please please buy/license/implement this for GitHub projects.

Elsewhere someone said Mermaid is supported already by GitHub:

https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid/#/gantt

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by bombledmonk » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:10 PM UTC

Anyone ever run across anything like this with a simple syntax that can do a timeline with split AND merges? I've always wanted something like the linux timeline [1] as an interactive timeline that can both split and merge.

[1]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Di...

Re: Show HN: Markwhen: Markdown for Timelines

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Post by ethbr0 » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 6:18 PM UTC

irrational wrote: post #28

ethbr0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who grew up in the US, it's still bizarre as a programmer to have a mixed-significance ordering (MM-DD-YYYY) instead of any consistently-endian ordering (DD-MM-YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD). Out of curiosity, in what order do Europeans verbally say full dates with month names? Or does it vary by language?

These replies are fascinating. When saying a date I always say month day year. I hadn’t considered that this might be cultural.

As an American, same. I was wondering where the weird month-first came from and figured it might have been verbal first, then codified in writing.