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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by potamic »

jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners"

Isn't this a gross violation of privacy and be clearly illegal? I could be playing my home videos with very private content. Add to that copyright violation if they are using screenshots of my content for commercial purposes.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by norman784 »

icod wrote: post #26

I'm totally done with Samsung. Their TVs are overpriced and bad, their phones add undeletable bloatware, remove useful stuff like headphone/mic jack, have low battery life and capacity and they force you to buy the flagship model, if you don't you'll receive a really small battery that even in the flagship model is not large enough. If you don't buy Galaxy series you won't even be able to mirror output via USB. And s…

I would recommend to buy cheaper TVs and use a separate device to make them smart, there are plenty of options, you can go with the mainstream ones Google, Apple, Amazon, etc, a cheap one from Ali express or a DIY (linux set top with kodi or similar).

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by ofTheFountain »

2000UltraDeluxe wrote: post #166
ofTheFountain wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one of the earlier mid range 4k Samsungs. About two years in they gave it an update that added a Lote of bloatware, some of their own TV streaming channels full of Samsung ads. And for a bit I had Adguard home on my router and Samsung endpoints where the biggest thing blocked by far, and it was the only Samsung device in he house. Now I have the internet disabled on it and just use an Xbox for smart stuff, wil…

I use an Xbox aswell, since my TV has an open security hole that the manufacturer refuses to patch, and because it sends unspecified data and fetches updates over an unencrypted connection. Mind you, the Xbox does just as much snooping, but at least the Xbox fetches updates over encrypted channels and doesn't let anyone on the same network have root access to the TV's linux installation.

True with the Xbox, bat at least imo MS is slitty more trustworthy with my data than Samsung. The tv was doing more network requests than the xbox and a few Apple devices combined.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by [deleted] »

potamic wrote: post #171
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners" Isn't this a gross violation of privacy and be clearly illegal? I could be playing my home videos with very private content. Add to that copyright violation if they are using screenshots of my content for commercial purposes.

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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by amenghra »

mschuster91 wrote: post #162
Geonode wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every thread dozens of people say, "just don't connect!" They can connect to open networks such as Amazon sidewalk and other deliberate corporate IoT sabotage, and soon I'm sure we'll see the first televisions that require connection to even pass a signal from the HDMI port. The best thing to do is not support this immoral garbage through apathy or ignorance.

Heh I would not be surprised if in the future TVs start shipping a DOCSIS modem in the cable TV backend and put up deals with major network operators to allow a low bandwidth back-signalling channel.

The future TV will ship with an embedded SIM card…

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Post by wink »

conradfr wrote: post #113
kyrra wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their appliance division has issues too. There are 2 ongoing lawsuits around their refrigerators. 2017 ice makers leak water (mine does this). https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/new-development-samsung-ic... 2022: fridge gets too warm: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samsung-refrigerator-class-acti...

It's a shame because my 8-10 years old Samsung dumb TV, oven/microwave and laser printer are all working great to this day. (That's more coincidence than brand loyalty, my Laden (French cheap brand) washing machine has also been working with no maintenance need for 13 years)

Can confirm - bought mine in ~2010 and it's not smart and it's been working ever since. If I hadn't read about all the bad stuff in the last few years I would've absolutely looked for another Samsung first.. Good job!

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Post by rawbot »

icod wrote: post #26

I'm totally done with Samsung. Their TVs are overpriced and bad, their phones add undeletable bloatware, remove useful stuff like headphone/mic jack, have low battery life and capacity and they force you to buy the flagship model, if you don't you'll receive a really small battery that even in the flagship model is not large enough. If you don't buy Galaxy series you won't even be able to mirror output via USB. And s…

I'm also 100% done with Samsung. Their rise in the late 00's and early 10's was really enticing, but they proved to be the worst of the lot. Every single recent device (last 6 years) of them that I use, I have some major UX issue with. Every. Single. One. Smart TVs, smartphones, kitchen appliances, washing machines, unbelieveably everything.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by jiggawatts »

potamic wrote: post #171
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners" Isn't this a gross violation of privacy and be clearly illegal? I could be playing my home videos with very private content. Add to that copyright violation if they are using screenshots of my content for commercial purposes.

Yes, it’s a gross violation of privacy. People watch porn on their TV, including home-made porn they made themselves. This is being captured and sent back to Samsung.

The bigger danger is that you could be watching something on a streaming system that could land you in jail in an authoritarian country. No amount of HTTPS encryption or VPNs will save you if the decoded image is sent raw back to Samsung — where it is not safe and secure!

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by jiggawatts »

jahnu wrote: post #151
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

Does anyone know if they do this on TVs sold in the EU?

They do this in every country.
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