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#12It's weird that the article explicitly mentiones various groups that were killed/deported to German concentration camps across Europe and commemorated by the stones, but does not mention the second largest one - Poles. German historical policy tends to not include Poles as victims the 1939-1945 Germany, but in spite of that, there are multiple stones commemorating them in today's Berlin.
I wouldn't say that "historical policy" doesn't include Poles, but yes, the popular view of the Holocaust is dominated by the organized extermination of the Jews (and some other groups) in the concentration camps. Non-Jewish Poles were also Nazi victims, but according to https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/polish-vic..., they were mostly murdered during the invasion of Poland or immediately after, so it's much more difficult to estimate the total number of victims. Also, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims, Soviet civilians and POWs are the second and third largest groups (not that it matters much, especially since Poland is a much smaller country).
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#13Insanely important, especially with the renewed rise of antisemitism - sad to see this downvoted.
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#15From my experience best cleaned with Elsterglanz Messing.
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#16It's an awesome idea, because it brings the painful past right into our daily lives. You're forced to serendipituously "stumble" across them every now and then. The stories on them, told in a brief phrase, are mostly heartbreaking, sometimes uplifting, always relevant. "Executed for making fun of the Führer", "Deported and gassed for hiding Jewish neighbors", "Survived concentration camp but parents, siblings and rel…
Yeah, in my city I also stumble across these stones. One day, on my way of getting groceries, I was quite frankly shocked by the frequency of the stolpersteine.
I am thankful that these exists and getting reminded now and then is, at least for me, really important and outline in some kind of tiny fraction, how many families suffered the same fate.
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#17It's an awesome idea, because it brings the painful past right into our daily lives. You're forced to serendipituously "stumble" across them every now and then. The stories on them, told in a brief phrase, are mostly heartbreaking, sometimes uplifting, always relevant. "Executed for making fun of the Führer", "Deported and gassed for hiding Jewish neighbors", "Survived concentration camp but parents, siblings and rel…
I've seen some that just name a family or couple that were taken away one night and "murdered", which hit me the hardest, personally.
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#18It's weird that the article explicitly mentiones various groups that were killed/deported to German concentration camps across Europe and commemorated by the stones, but does not mention the second largest one - Poles. German historical policy tends to not include Poles as victims the 1939-1945 Germany, but in spite of that, there are multiple stones commemorating them in today's Berlin.
Apparently putting down the stones in Poland is met with resistance. If poles want to commemorate killed poles with these stones they will have to take the initiative.
In Germany there has been a lot of resistance too. Including court cases etc.
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#19It's weird that the article explicitly mentiones various groups that were killed/deported to German concentration camps across Europe and commemorated by the stones, but does not mention the second largest one - Poles. German historical policy tends to not include Poles as victims the 1939-1945 Germany, but in spite of that, there are multiple stones commemorating them in today's Berlin.
Apparently putting down the stones in Poland is met with resistance. If poles want to commemorate killed poles with these stones they will have to take the initiative.
It's their way of commemorating their victims and somehow in the process the second largest group slipped through. I don't want their way of commemorating their victims in my home Poland.