Perhaps customers are no longer sustainable without that.
Bolt has a cool web interface and they really don't want you to use it
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#142> So basically I made it easier for me to give Bolt money. You're welcome, Bolt!
But does Bolt even want my money? Maybe the real reason they push apps so hard is that apps allow more access to that sweet, sweet private data on my phone so they can sell it, which is their real cash cow?
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really can't understand why Reddit is pushing the app so hard. I mean, keep that as an option, but why creating an awful UX for the mobile web users? You gather more data but the product is worse, less users are staying and you're losing value at the end...
Easy, harder for users to block the ads in apps. Apple / Google should allow add blockers for the entire OS.
it’s a vpn profile that just intercepts dns requests locally and screens with a hosts file
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They are, but they're also aware of the effort vs return on dealing with a "small percentage of the population" as you admit. Sometimes its worth it, often it isn't.
Except that it literally takes more effort to exclude them than it does to not do so. Bolt is the prime example here: they already have a working web app , and they go out of their way to block people from using it instead of the smartphone app, seemingly only in locales where they believe most people have smartphones. Why? What does that accomplish? It'd be understandable if the smartphone apps came first and the de…
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally stop browsing Reddit and Twitter when their fuck-you-banners appear. I have accounts with both, but installing the app or logging in is usually more friction than accessing the content is worth. ... So thanks for keeping my periods of distraction very short! Maybe they just care about their users' mental health and are sacrificing their engagement for it :)
The default Reddit web site on desktop is excruciating enough to use. On mobile it's unusable. I only use old.reddit.com. If that ever went away I would never visit Reddit again.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that it literally takes more effort to exclude them than it does to not do so. Bolt is the prime example here: they already have a working web app , and they go out of their way to block people from using it instead of the smartphone app, seemingly only in locales where they believe most people have smartphones. Why? What does that accomplish? It'd be understandable if the smartphone apps came first and the de…
This thread is about web vs apps in general. I don't know why Bolt does what they do, but generally it's a lot of effort to maintain both interfaces for mobile users, often with entirely different teams, frameworks, language stacks, deployment models and more just to end up in the same place.
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They do the same thing to old.reddit.com (cookie banners redirect there, etc) Like, I get that you don't update it anymore, and I don't need (or want) you to, but the new version is insanely slow on my computer, so just let me use whatever I want please.
The "new" redesign is just so bad. Viewing a post only shows comments 1 level deep, and then to see the rest of the thread you have to click "continue this thread" and then you have to go back to get to any other threads, just constant tiresome clicks... Reading the comments on a post in old reddit is a pleasure, but in the redesign it's a complete mess. Why? Oh and what the hell is the deal with links to content con…
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Why is that all the taxi app should do? Getting a message "heavy traffic, your car has been delayed" is what everyone else seeming rational really wants. Messaging and awareness of the current state of the transaction they are in.
Before it arrives, you mean? That's still not something that a web page can't easily do.
You have a page with a piece of JavaScript on it. Every 30 seconds it pings back "What's the status of request 12345678?" and updates a div.
If Domino's can display "your order has been handed to Steve for delivery", then a taxi service can say "Tom is stuck on the 405."
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#149Naturally these kind of dark patterns to force apps don't apply.
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My Reddit usage has basically plummeted to 0 at this point because of their pushing me towards an app. I think there are provable cases where an app almost certainly leads to less retention than more and something like Reddit, whose value lies in allowing you to explore the internet is almost certainly one of them.
I really can't understand why Reddit is pushing the app so hard. I mean, keep that as an option, but why creating an awful UX for the mobile web users? You gather more data but the product is worse, less users are staying and you're losing value at the end...