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Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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LG makea better TVs, appliances, phones, everything.

No, they do not. The TVs and the appliances are garbage. So garbage they still can't hire techs in LA. They pay you commission but only only on closed and profitable calls. They are almost never closed due to backorders of parts, especially boards, and especially now. Samsung and LG are both the same garbage in different packages. For TVs Id do your best to find a dumb one or use a monitor. For applicances it depends…

What do you dislike about induction ranges?

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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https://forum.developer.samsung.com/t/if-you-choose-to-not-c... https://web.archive.org/web/20190521054343/https://www.reddi... The reason there are likely so few reports is because a)open wifi networks are very rare b)you can't really tell that the TV has done it, until it shows its hand (as in the case above, notifying the user that it auto-updated itself.)

If it’s showing you ads, it’s connected. If it’s not showing you ads, it’s not connected.

> If it’s not showing you ads, it’s not connected.

If it’s not showing you ads, it might not be connected. It could still be connected and performing all sorts of shenanigans without necessarily showing you any ads.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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youtube, netflix, etc...?

...Can all be streaming via a plugged in device. Your television should be a monitor, nothing more.

Agreed, all networked things on my TV goes through Apple TV (puck, not the service).

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach, and "laughable" doesn't begin to describe it.

Back in 2017 a security researcher found 40 zero-day vulnerabilities in Samsung's Tizen OS. [1][2]

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/04/samsungs-tizen-is-ri...

[2] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xy9p7n/samsung-tizen-operati...

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. What a weird thing to say. Are you suggesting that it's fine that FAANG companies also spy on you mercilessly, because their security is ostensibly better?

When Google collects data about me, I’m relatively certain what I’d going to happen to that data — it gets folded into a bazillion models and is used to sell me shit. When Samsung collects data about me, I have absolutely no clue what happens next with that data. It’s not necessarily better or worse, but it’s a very different bit of privacy calculus you need to work through.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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I have a QN90A, the ads are annoying but it's fine and it's a great TV overall. It's basically just a tiny banner ad at the bottom right of the home screen. Personally I take much bigger risks day to day by doing things like biking to work, so I'm okay with the risk of my TV sending data back to advertisers. BTW, I'm pretty sure the only Samsung TVs that are five figures are the 98" beasts. My 75" QN90A was $1600, an…

> the ads are annoying but it's fine This doesn't parse. It's like saying 'this apple is rotten but it's fine'. If the apple is rotten, then it is not fine. If the television has annoying ads, then it is not fine.

This is a common way of speaking in American English. For example

"Hey earlier today you fell down, how's your elbow feeling?"

"Not too bad, it's annoying but it's fine"

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Never allow a TV or monitor to connect to your Wi-Fi network and you'll be able to avoid these two issues

HDMI can carry ethernet, so not connecting to wifi isn't a 100% fix.

Ethernet over HDMI is basically dead. Just because the standard supports it doesn’t mean the devices do.

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Every thread dozens of people say, "just don't connect!" They can connect to open networks such as Amazon sidewalk and other deliberate corporate IoT sabotage, and soon I'm sure we'll see the first televisions that require connection to even pass a signal from the HDMI port. The best thing to do is not support this immoral garbage through apathy or ignorance.

And every thread says they can connect to open WiFi without providing any proof that they do. It would be trivial to test and prove but no-one ever does. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it but I'd prefer some proof before judging them (without having to shell out to be the guinea pig).

Whether they do now is irrelevant. Their entire history is violating trust.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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I have a QN90A, the ads are annoying but it's fine and it's a great TV overall. It's basically just a tiny banner ad at the bottom right of the home screen. Personally I take much bigger risks day to day by doing things like biking to work, so I'm okay with the risk of my TV sending data back to advertisers. BTW, I'm pretty sure the only Samsung TVs that are five figures are the 98" beasts. My 75" QN90A was $1600, an…

It’s not ok that your tv has a banner ad!

But actually it is ok. I've gotten used to it and don't notice. It doesn't harm me in any way
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