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Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Post by EarthLaunch »

idle_zealot wrote: post #159
pxc wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the nail on the coffin for kernel extensions The OpenZFS implementation on macOS also requires kernel extensions, and I don't suppose it can easily be ported to FUSE or that that would have desirable performance characteristics. Special kernel extensions are also required to get some basic functionality working on macOS these days, like disabling pointer acceleration.

> disabling pointer acceleration Could you point me to the kext that does that? I’ve been trying to find a way to disable it for ages.

Under Miscellaneous, Exactmouse Tool. https://steelseries.com/engine

This is what everyone uses. Mouse acceleration disable is a dealbreaker for me- I won’t update unless something supports it.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

idle_zealot wrote: post #160
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #140

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You can completely disable Gatekeeper if it annoys you: $ sudo spctl --master-disable

I’ve done this a few times but still get nagged when launching unsigned apps for the first time. Is that part of a different security mechanism?

Probably, I would need to see the message to be sure what you're referring to. But LaunchServices will for example still warn you the first time you open a downloaded application. You used to be able to get rid of that with `defaults write com.apple.LaunchServices LSQuarantine -bool false` but I don't know if the syntax has changed.

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Post by m348e912 »

more_corn wrote: post #32
Ensorceled wrote: post #15

5-6 year support for hardware is just too short. I have a Mid 2015 Macbook Pro as a "backup" and that computer is still quite decent.

They haven’t yet released a machine worth upgrading to if you’re on a 2015 MBP. I recently got a 14” M1 and I think I’ll just reinstall my 2015 and move back to it.

I upvoted you because you're entitled your opinion, but I whole-heartedly disagree.

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Post by pxc »

EarthLaunch wrote: post #161
idle_zealot wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> disabling pointer acceleration Could you point me to the kext that does that? I’ve been trying to find a way to disable it for ages.

Under Miscellaneous, Exactmouse Tool. https://steelseries.com/engine This is what everyone uses. Mouse acceleration disable is a dealbreaker for me- I won’t update unless something supports it.

That no longer worked, the last few times I tried it. The only thing that works now are these drivers that implements a different type of pointing device (CursorSense and SteerMouse) from Plentycom: http://www.plentycom.jp/en/index.html

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Post by Tagbert »

ksec wrote: post #97
filoleg wrote: post #90

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I can see why most on HN (and actually outside of HN too) would say a larger trackpad is great, so I think you might indeed be in the minority opinion on this one. Even mainstream reviewers tended to list it as a positive. But butterfly keyboard had been pretty much universally decried as a terrible mistake almost everywhere, including HN.

>But butterfly keyboard had been pretty much universally decried as a terrible mistake almost everywhere, including HN. That was certainly not the case until the reliability problem got magnified in 2018. When the problem has been there since 2016. Before that Butterfly was somehow the holy grail for touch typist.

A lot of us hated the butterfly keyboard from the beginning. Both here on HN and in other community situations. The noise interfered with calls when taking notes. I made a lot more typing mistakes due to the space being reduced between keys. I’ve typed on lots of keyboards over the years and got used to most of them but never could get used to that.

When they skipped or doubled keypresses started it was just the cherry on top.

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Post by etchalon »

grishka wrote: post #152
etchalon wrote: post #4

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Things the user can override are things social engineers can convince users to override.

To which my answer is — being alive is risky, get over it and stop treating all people like idiots that need constant oversight lest they do something potentially dangerous.

"... and that's why I don't wear a helmet."

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Post by mistrial9 »

scarface74 wrote: post #81
DavideNL wrote: post #42

> " Passkeys aim to solve the problems with passwords " So are you locked in with Apple if you use this, or can you switch all your existing passwords to another "passkey provider/service" ? > " Wave Goodbye to CAPTCHAS " I assume that's Safari only... so this is bad news for Firefox?

This is based on a standard that Apple, Google and Microsoft have all agree to and have agreed to a method to transfer keys between devices.

three US Corporations will be in charge of the implementation of this newly required security ?

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Post by r00fus »

etchalon wrote: post #4
jmull wrote: post #2

> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users. This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.

Things the user can override are things social engineers can convince users to override.

This is overboard. Defaults matter a LOT. Requiring users to override defaults to deliver ad/malware is a losing proposition and ad/malware creators know this.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Post by r00fus »

DavideNL wrote: post #42

> " Passkeys aim to solve the problems with passwords " So are you locked in with Apple if you use this, or can you switch all your existing passwords to another "passkey provider/service" ? > " Wave Goodbye to CAPTCHAS " I assume that's Safari only... so this is bad news for Firefox?

Passkey's (and webauth2's) major value proposition for software/service providers is for people to stop sharing accounts. This will result in more sales/subscriptions, and better tracking of preferences/activity.

That it also happens to provide better security is just more cheese on the trap.

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