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Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by ComradePhil »

millerm wrote: post #21
ComradePhil wrote: post #13

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We have holidays that commemorate the birth and death of mythical gods. This holiday has merit. Try to remember the fact that we don’t have slavery anymore, and it’s a human right to NOT be one. It could’ve been you next.

> mythical gods

And? Myths are what shape culture and thinking of people. They are important.

The fact that people who happened to have a certain color of skin did something to people of a certain color has no meaning to people of a completely different time when those things are not even remotely relevant.

The only reason I can think why this exists is because someone decided to exploit people of today based on skin color.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by ComradePhil »

yashap wrote: post #37
canaus wrote: post #24

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Your comment seems to carry a tone of dismissal, may I ask why?

Clicked their previous comments - they’re a neo-nazi Holocaust denier. For example, they posted this 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722179 > Hitler is recognized and admired by many. If the change in world order happens when his significance is still fresh, he will surface back as a universally admired figure because it is not very difficult to piece together what the Nazi regime actually did vs w…

> they’re a neo-nazi Holocaust denier.

I'll take Holocaust denier but don't you have to be white to be a neo-Nazi?

> Why do neo-nazis exist?

I've heard this term has been used to describe anti-immigrant people... and then there is Azov and groups like that. If I were to use your language, I'm a non-white immigrant to a majority white country. Why would I be a neo-Nazi?

> Obviously racists are not going to agree with Juneteenth.

I believe that anyone who thinks race exists is a racist... so this means the entire American system and from what I see. There is no such thing as race, biologically or genetically speaking... and even if it did, it would have no relation to the race used by American racists who seem to use skin colors (black, white, brown, yellow etc.) to determine race... and from the outside, it seems to it is used in the US for keeping tension between people who look different because of their genetic heritage so that they can be kept afraid and loyal to political parties.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by bradknowles »

sgent wrote: post #45
Leherenn wrote: post #41

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What does it being a federal holiday entail in the US? Here it would mean a paid day off but based on your comment that's not the case.

Federal employees get a paid holiday, banks and financial institutions are closed, federal government offices and post offices are closed. Private companies and state and local governments can make their own choices about whether to be open / closed / allow days off. I live in the south in about a 50% black area and most of our businesses are either closed or giving the people the option to take it off -- many did th…

So, what Whole Foods did was not recognize any Federal Holidays. They give you a number of paid holidays you can take off each year, plus a certain amount of PTO for you to use as you like (which includes sick leave), and that's about it.

The idea is that they are a commercial company supporting 500+ stores around the country, and those days tend to be their busiest. So, corporate shouldn't be getting days off when the people on the ground running the stores don't get the day off.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by yashap »

ComradePhil wrote: post #52
yashap wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clicked their previous comments - they’re a neo-nazi Holocaust denier. For example, they posted this 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722179 > Hitler is recognized and admired by many. If the change in world order happens when his significance is still fresh, he will surface back as a universally admired figure because it is not very difficult to piece together what the Nazi regime actually did vs w…

> they’re a neo-nazi Holocaust denier. I'll take Holocaust denier but don't you have to be white to be a neo-Nazi? > Why do neo-nazis exist? I've heard this term has been used to describe anti-immigrant people... and then there is Azov and groups like that. If I were to use your language, I'm a non-white immigrant to a majority white country. Why would I be a neo-Nazi? > Obviously racists are not going to agree with…

IMO if you’re a Holocaust denier who idolizes Hitler then yeah, you’re a neo-Nazi.

The Holocaust happened. My grandfather was an Auschwitz survivor, the only survivor of his family - the Nazis murdered his parents, brothers and sisters. He saw unspeakable cruelty in Auschwitz, watched the Nazis casually and systematically starve, abuse and mass murder countless Jews. When the Red Army liberated them, he and the other survivors were so emaciated that the Soviet soldiers broke down crying just seeing them. You saying essentially “there was no Holocaust, the dirty Jews were dying of typhus and the SS tried to save them” is an absolutely insane, racist conspiracy theory flying in the face of all evidence. Things aren’t true just because your twisted, anti-Semitic mind believes them to be.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by [deleted] »

yashap wrote: post #46
millerm wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have holidays that commemorate the birth and death of mythical gods. This holiday has merit. Try to remember the fact that we don’t have slavery anymore, and it’s a human right to NOT be one. It could’ve been you next.

As I posted here, take a peek at their past comments, they’re an outright neo-nazi Holocaust denier, and they seem to see Hitler as a hero: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31791070 Not surprising a racist disagrees with celebrating the emancipation of African American slaves.

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Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by ComradePhil »

yashap wrote: post #54
ComradePhil wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they’re a neo-nazi Holocaust denier. I'll take Holocaust denier but don't you have to be white to be a neo-Nazi? > Why do neo-nazis exist? I've heard this term has been used to describe anti-immigrant people... and then there is Azov and groups like that. If I were to use your language, I'm a non-white immigrant to a majority white country. Why would I be a neo-Nazi? > Obviously racists are not going to agree with…

IMO if you’re a Holocaust denier who idolizes Hitler then yeah, you’re a neo-Nazi. The Holocaust happened. My grandfather was an Auschwitz survivor, the only survivor of his family - the Nazis murdered his parents, brothers and sisters. He saw unspeakable cruelty in Auschwitz, watched the Nazis casually and systematically starve, abuse and mass murder countless Jews. When the Red Army liberated them, he and the other…

> the Nazis murdered his parents, brothers and sisters

And a magic unicorn told me that they died because of typhus used as a biological weapon by the Union forces while Germany tried their best to save them.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by EddieDante »

foogazi wrote: post #44
EddieDante wrote: post #10

It gets mentioned and acknowledged, but it isn't a company holiday, though I'm allowed to take paid time off.

> though I'm allowed to take paid time off. Does this mean it’s an optional day off ?

No, it means I have a ready-made excuse to take a day off. =^.^=

Re: Ask HN: Is your company giving you a holiday for Juneteenth?

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Post by hui-zheng »

In the spirit of the Juneteenth last Sunday, as a first generation Chinese immigrant from Mainland China, with firsthand experience and struggle with group identity and victimhood in both China and North America, I would like to share this great movie, "Uncle Tom", to remind us of what makes America America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLj-zARCv8

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