> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users. This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.
Things the user can override are things social engineers can convince users to override.
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#112> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users. This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.
Security folks tend to have a very myopic view on things. Ever wondered why your computer got less and less useable? Security people pushing their agenda.
So the less toys to play, the better.
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#113Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".
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#1145-6 year support for hardware is just too short. I have a Mid 2015 Macbook Pro as a "backup" and that computer is still quite decent.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I have been baffled that it was always so difficult for the user to manage what’s auto-launched on start-up. So many apps try to bury into start-up so they can keep collecting data and lightly spamming the user. Can anyone shed light on why it took so long? I had always figured the non-existence of a login items panel was a purposeful choice.
It's actually been there for a long time. It's a separate tab in "Users & Groups" pre-Ventura.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't much better with big cats. There were two sort of semantically related releases, Leopard/Snow Leopard and Lion/Mountain Lion. Of those on the Leopard/Snow Leopard I thought made sense as Snow Leopard was a "oh shit fix all the bugs" release. SL was the first full OS release after the Intel transition and 64-bit kernel.
I can picture a big cat in my mind. That helped to peg OS X releases and enabled me to mentally distinguish and order them. I can't picture "Monterey" or "Ventura" or any other macOS names, they have no meaning to me.
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#117Nothing terribly major here, it sounds like. Making login items visible is a long-overdue change... but none of these are going to have any particular impact on average users or average apps. On a pettier note, can we get a better source than a website that's using JS to change its title when it doesn't have focus to try to gain attention? (It toggles about every second between "macOS Ventura | 7 New Security Changes…
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#118Does anyone know how to re-enable this functionality?
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#119Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".
Ubuntu has both a codename and a version number. macOS has a version number too (Ventura is 13) but Apple frustratingly don’t use it prominently.
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#1205-6 year support for hardware is just too short. I have a Mid 2015 Macbook Pro as a "backup" and that computer is still quite decent.
I wonder if it’s worse this year than usual because of the switchover to AppleSilicon? I have a 2013 Mac Pro that I use daily and it’s gotten all updates until this one. 9 years is pretty good. But I can understand wanting to end support for as many Intel machines as quickly as possible.