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Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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Good post, its important to know what you want and what is important. When I first started talking to VC partners I discovered that they were like any sort of relationship, and like those relationships if they have something that annoys you now, its only going to get worse. So ask yourself early on if you can deal with that.

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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It seems that for many people, getting a VC term sheet is considered a measure of success. Sometimes it seems like that's the goal they are working for.

Often, however, when I see one of these articles of advice from a VC, I become glad that our business is so capital efficient that we shouldn't need outside investment until we're very profitable.

And even then, I'd seek out a good angel, rather than conventional venture capital. (In my career, I've seen enough bad decisions forced onto founders by venture capitalists first hand.)

The one phrase that will never hold sway on me is "that's the way it's always been done." And, frankly, I think it tells you a lot about someone's motivations when they want to put expenses that they control on your balance sheet.

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

#4
> Another person didn’t want preferred shareholders to have any preferred rights.

I'm just fine with the idea of VCs getting common stock like everybody else, but I'm not so much in favor of random redefinitions of words. I'd be afraid of the liability to the company when that person started making up his own definitions of things like employment law...

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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post #3

It seems that for many people, getting a VC term sheet is considered a measure of success. Sometimes it seems like that's the goal they are working for. Often, however, when I see one of these articles of advice from a VC, I become glad that our business is so capital efficient that we shouldn't need outside investment until we're very profitable. And even then, I'd seek out a good angel, rather than conventional ven…

I think that VCs seem to look heavily for patterns. Partially because they can't take the time to evaluate too much of the deal (it's already possibly a product or business model that's never existed before) so they tend to read unusual, out-of-pattern stuff as higher, non-understandable risk.

Often "that's the way it's always been done" ends up like that because someone, somewhere got burned. Not an excuse but often the reason.

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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> One founder wanted to negotiate out of having to pay $10K in lawyer fees.

Are these fees for the VC's due diligence investigation, or are they for putting together good paperwork for the company? For the former, the company has just bartered legal services and needs to issue an IRS form 1099 to the VC who has to pay taxes, and may be committing securities fraud by colluding to book the fees as basis cost rather than operating expense.

Anybody know?

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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> One founder wanted to negotiate out of having to pay $10K in lawyer fees. Are these fees for the VC's due diligence investigation, or are they for putting together good paperwork for the company? For the former, the company has just bartered legal services and needs to issue an IRS form 1099 to the VC who has to pay taxes, and may be committing securities fraud by colluding to book the fees as basis cost rather tha…

Neither. The proper way to book merger-and-acquisition-related legal fees (along with other non-recurring professional fees related to the transaction) is as part of the basis cost of aquiring the stock. This increased basis cost is not reflected on the seller's side as increased purchase price.

Indeed, this is how legal fees related to the acquisition of any capital asset would be booked by a company. It's all part of the wonder and horror that is the modern tax code.

Re: Term Sheet Negotiation Tells

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> One founder wanted to negotiate out of having to pay $10K in lawyer fees. Are these fees for the VC's due diligence investigation, or are they for putting together good paperwork for the company? For the former, the company has just bartered legal services and needs to issue an IRS form 1099 to the VC who has to pay taxes, and may be committing securities fraud by colluding to book the fees as basis cost rather tha…

Neither. The proper way to book merger-and-acquisition-related legal fees (along with other non-recurring professional fees related to the transaction) is as part of the basis cost of aquiring the stock. This increased basis cost is not reflected on the seller's side as increased purchase price. Indeed, this is how legal fees related to the acquisition of any capital asset would be booked by a company. It's all part…

Wow. Great comment. Agree completely.
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