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Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #180
hannob wrote: post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

The only reason is to escape regulatory fines for something 99% of the world doesn't give a shit about. Not using fonts is not always an option

> Not using fonts is not always an option

The silliness of this is that someone is going through the effort to set up hosting for a website but hosting the fonts is just too difficult and has to be delegated to a third party. The laziness of webdevs never fails to astound.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by DocTomoe »

kube-system wrote: post #123
DocTomoe wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, who ever got executed for spying domestically? Who ever got a prison sentence in line with the rough prison sentences the US happily gives out for much lesser offenses? Wo ever got so much as a bad performance review? Noone? Why am I not surprised?

Who has been executed for violating GDPR? Laws can be enforced without executing people.

That's why I gave two "lesser punishments", which also are apparently not used.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by DocTomoe »

the_only_law wrote: post #97
DocTomoe wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, who ever got executed for spying domestically? Who ever got a prison sentence in line with the rough prison sentences the US happily gives out for much lesser offenses? Wo ever got so much as a bad performance review? Noone? Why am I not surprised?

Illegal things are ok if they involve "national security" or are useful for cold war dick measuring.

In countries that follow the rule of law, they are not.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by 1337shadow »

hannob wrote: post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

Can't you self host this?

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by zerocrates »

chrismorgan wrote: post #198
favourable wrote: post #50

This is a great project, but I learned to use a system font stack[0] instead to address latency issues on my sites. I run an e-commerce site and every millisecond in rendering time is potentially a lost sale. It needs to be fast, especially for those on 3G (or 2G?) connections. [0] https://systemfontstack.com/

The particular stacks advocated by that site aren’t particularly good (though they’re not all that bad either). It was discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31543054 a few weeks ago. I would scrap at least Avenir Next, Avenir, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ubuntu, Roboto, Noto, Arial, Apple Garamond, Times New Roman, Droid Serif, Times, Source Serif Pro, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji, Segoe UI Symbol, Mo…

Most actual versions of this kind of thing out in the wild have Roboto; what's your reasoning for wanting to exclude it? "Inferior"?

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by [deleted] »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #173
skybrian wrote: post #166

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I don't think we can reasonably assume either of those things. You're speculating about both Google Fonts and Bunny fonts based on very little information.

No, and yes, respectively. If you consider "Google recording and monteizing on CORS URL requests" speculation, I'm not sure you know much about the company we're talking about here. They've been sued and fined over tracking quite a number of times. Do we know whether bunny.net is any better? In the abstract, no we don't, but we're not dealing in abstracts, so we actually do because of where they operate. A real Europ…

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Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by jfk13 »

meribold wrote: post #142
xigoi wrote: post #100

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No, it's a matter of preference. The default fonts in some browsers are pretty ugly, so if you want at least a chance of getting a better font, you can use a stack like this. But it's fine if you don't.

> The default fonts in some browsers are pretty ugly Is this really the case anymore these days? I think Firefox uses Courier New on Windows as the default monospaced font, but other than that I'm not aware of popular browsers using terrible fonts by default. A nice aspect of using just serif or sans-serif is that users who configured their browser's font options get what they chose.

> I think Firefox uses Courier New on Windows as the default monospaced font

Actually, it was recently changed to use Consolas: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1607913

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by Gordonjcp »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #23
quickthrower2 wrote: post #21

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I would guess they have a server nearer your client than you do.

Fonts would be served over the same HTTP/2 line as your main content though. That's pretty much always faster than a new TLS handshake, regardless of roundtrip.

Exactly this. The last mile is always going to be the slowest. Where you serve stuff from makes (almost) no difference).
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