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Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

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Post by toyg »

rudyfink wrote: post #68

A few thoughts after a some use: I was part of a community of people I liked, and now, after I clicked a button, that was gone. I miss those people already. I don't recall anything on the text that clearly said "oh yeah, stuff will be gone, including your friends, and we meant to do that." If I want to share now, I have to do so publicly with the Internet or click a "share" button way in the upper right and then buil…

I don't know why they just didn't try to automatically convert the Readers categories of users into G+ circles, plus a button "not on G+? click here and join".

Google -1 on this one.

(and yeah, the new grey-on-grey style is really bad and depressing.)

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

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Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

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Post by mrleinad »

mjfern wrote: post #58
thesethings wrote: post #37

The no-sharing/discovery thing has hit me hard. If anybody out there has a social RSS reader start-up, feel free to reply to this and advertise your service. I will drag my friends to it along with me. (Yes, I use Twitter, Instapaper, news aggregate sites, etc. Yes social software has changed how i would otherwise discover links/news. But I still need an RSS reader, and the passive sharing in old Google Reader is a l…

We are working on startup: http://intigi.com . You can subscribe to your RSS or Twitter feeds and then filter the feeds by your interests (i.e., using keywords). In terms of social features, you can make any interest public and share it with others. You can also follow or fork any of the public interests (like Github). We are in early stages with the social features (and overall product) and would really appreciate a…

Looks really promising. Signed up just now.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

#74

Post by vladimirm »

ambirex wrote: post #5

One early criticism (aside from the sharing bugaboo) is the header is larger making the allowable reading area much smaller. the topmost the feed content can be read is ~193px from the top of the browser. And you can't scroll down because of the way the page it built. Here is what firebug told me: 29px - account bar 59px - search bar 73px - feed toolbar 32px - feed title bar (in the reading pane)

I was going to say the same thing. I took a screenshot and looked at the space. The actual content uses about 80% of the width and 70% of the height of my screen. Ideally, they could've moved a lot of stuff to the sidebar to avoid the four bars you also mention.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

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Post by mjfern »

mrleinad wrote: post #73
mjfern wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are working on startup: http://intigi.com . You can subscribe to your RSS or Twitter feeds and then filter the feeds by your interests (i.e., using keywords). In terms of social features, you can make any interest public and share it with others. You can also follow or fork any of the public interests (like Github). We are in early stages with the social features (and overall product) and would really appreciate a…

Looks really promising. Signed up just now.

Thanks! :-) Please let me know your thoughts about the application.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

#76

Post by neonkiwi »

Google Reader circa yesterday provided an inbox-style interface for all of your content. A feed had read and unread items, and folders allowed you to compose macro-inboxes, and (this is the change) shared content was treated in the same way, if not better—new comments on this content would be clearly indicated, allowing for in-app discussions.

Today, Google Reader has made shared content a second-class feed. With the removal of the inbox-style interface, if you miss a friend's shared item on Google Plus (possibly buried in other items), it's gone. The closest you can come to a 'mark as unread' functionality is through a work-around: creating a memberless 'save for later' circle, to share items with. Furthermore, shared content isn't even visible within Google Reader.

I can't be alone in thinking this was a good interface for sharing articles. If anybody has an alternative RSS reader with this functionality, please let me know. I would pay for this, but I can see it being a tough sell generally.

Conesus, I think you've mentioned in a different thread that you have social features in the pipeline: is this something you're aiming at?

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

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Post by Kylekramer »

From all the outrage, I'll learn that users will love (or perhaps just grow accustom to) an utterly broken and opaque system as long as it is left around to grow a community. If you used Google Reader's social features before, you impress the hell out of me. I never grokked a single element of it after many years of use. I think Google clearly needed to do something, and integration with G+ is an obvious move. Perhaps the transition could have been smoother, but I cannot really see how the old system was superior in any way except for a very tiny amount of traction.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

#78

Post by toyg »

mjfern wrote: post #58
thesethings wrote: post #37

The no-sharing/discovery thing has hit me hard. If anybody out there has a social RSS reader start-up, feel free to reply to this and advertise your service. I will drag my friends to it along with me. (Yes, I use Twitter, Instapaper, news aggregate sites, etc. Yes social software has changed how i would otherwise discover links/news. But I still need an RSS reader, and the passive sharing in old Google Reader is a l…

We are working on startup: http://intigi.com . You can subscribe to your RSS or Twitter feeds and then filter the feeds by your interests (i.e., using keywords). In terms of social features, you can make any interest public and share it with others. You can also follow or fork any of the public interests (like Github). We are in early stages with the social features (and overall product) and would really appreciate a…

damn, I fell for it again: joined, didn't particularly like it, decided to delete my account... and there is no way to do it.

Sigh. You guys keep doing this, and sooner or later some EU commissioner with half a brain will crack down on the practice, and then we'll all be poorer.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

#79

Post by lukasb »

Kylekramer wrote: post #77

From all the outrage, I'll learn that users will love (or perhaps just grow accustom to) an utterly broken and opaque system as long as it is left around to grow a community. If you used Google Reader's social features before, you impress the hell out of me. I never grokked a single element of it after many years of use. I think Google clearly needed to do something, and integration with G+ is an obvious move. Perhap…

Ways in which the old system was superior:

- You interacted with that subset of your friends (and their friends) that cared enough about reading to use this weird software.

- You could read your hand-selected feeds, share items and read others' shares in the same place. It was social reading. Now the reading and the social aspect are divorced.

Re: New in Reader: a fresh design, and Google+ sharing

#80

Post by mjfern »

toyg wrote: post #78
mjfern wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are working on startup: http://intigi.com . You can subscribe to your RSS or Twitter feeds and then filter the feeds by your interests (i.e., using keywords). In terms of social features, you can make any interest public and share it with others. You can also follow or fork any of the public interests (like Github). We are in early stages with the social features (and overall product) and would really appreciate a…

damn, I fell for it again: joined, didn't particularly like it, decided to delete my account... and there is no way to do it. Sigh. You guys keep doing this, and sooner or later some EU commissioner with half a brain will crack down on the practice, and then we'll all be poorer.

I've deleted your account. :-) We're still in Beta. Can you be specific about what you didn't like? Please email me at mjfern@intigi.com. Thanks in advance! Michael
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