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In otherwords, water is wet. It's very easy to see that tribal behavior is hardwired into the brain. One just has to look at history and current events to see that. I own a sports motorcycle. One of the first things you learn at the track is that your initial instincts in certain situations are wrong because physics says so. During the course you learn to remold or even completely change your instincts. I've often wo…
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This research gives evidence that outgroup aggression feels good/rewarding. I’d tend to think this is hard-wired biologically. You’re right that it could conceivably be trained, but that’s not what it felt like for me as a young male in college. While many people (myself included) could anecdotally say that aggression to an outgroup can feel good, it’s the job of science to look for the hard evidence in the brain. Th…
> This research gives evidence that outgroup aggression feels good/rewarding. I’d tend to think this is hard-wired biologically. This research gives evidence that rival college competition is fun to male college students. The point I was trying to make is that this is a specifically narrow finding with confounding factors (mirrors the structure of sports programs, which are significant social activities at many colle…
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Is that something that's just cultural in the community or is it something explicitly taught by university orientation/course work?
Those campuses are seeped in that rivarly. You'll hear chants, speeches, etc. It's a tradition.
This person is ~30 years out of school, and the vehicle was an INCREDIBLE deal and exactly what the person was looking to buy (other than the colour).
The person never competed in sports and was a comp sci major. It runs deep for at many schools.
In otherwords, water is wet. It's very easy to see that tribal behavior is hardwired into the brain. One just has to look at history and current events to see that. I own a sports motorcycle. One of the first things you learn at the track is that your initial instincts in certain situations are wrong because physics says so. During the course you learn to remold or even completely change your instincts. I've often wo…
And wouldn't studying the brain help lead us towards a better understanding of how to accomplish those goals? I'm not saying that this particular study is advancing us much, but helping identify how "obvious" human behaviors activate different parts of our brains does seem to be working towards that goal.
I'm just having a little difficulty reconciling your dismissive opening paired with your wonder of what might be possible for us as a species. Breakthroughs in science are rare - it's mostly small, incremental, and boring progress.
Each individual person is liable to become a "them" once one asserts one's individuality from the group identity. Group coalitions that do not respect individuality often fall prey to base emotions as they collectively punish individual identities. Individual creators are largely responsible for the actual work, new ideas, innovations, things... The feedback loop described in the OP creates groupthink, politically co…
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In otherwords, water is wet. It's very easy to see that tribal behavior is hardwired into the brain. One just has to look at history and current events to see that. I own a sports motorcycle. One of the first things you learn at the track is that your initial instincts in certain situations are wrong because physics says so. During the course you learn to remold or even completely change your instincts. I've often wo…
> I've often wondered what we could accomplish as a species if we could just overcome some of these hardwired / knee-jerk instincts. And wouldn't studying the brain help lead us towards a better understanding of how to accomplish those goals? I'm not saying that this particular study is advancing us much, but helping identify how "obvious" human behaviors activate different parts of our brains does seem to be working…
It seems that the only thing that causes change in our innate bias, is pain. When we are forced to confront our biases, because not doing so hurts (like crashing a racing bike), we will work hard to change it.
Otherwise, we will blithely continue "as we were."
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>College students are literally trained to associate out-competing rival universities as a fun and desirable activity. This was not my experience in undergrad, literally at all. No idea where this comes from
Go to hell LSU! Gotta win the Egg Bowl over those scrubs at Mississippi State. Woo hoo we’re in the playoffs! It comes from many people’s experiences of collegiate sports which is full of rivalries, largely with no real basis. Except for LSU.
> The researchers had 35 male college students complete a competitive, aggressive task against either a student from their university or from what they were told was a rival university. Male college students, an “aggressive task”, and a rival university. College students are literally trained to associate out-competing rival universities as a fun and desirable activity. It’s the entire foundation of sports programs.…
Personally I think it’s interesting that the “aggressive task” was to push a computer button faster than the opponent. This isn’t “aggressive” in the way most people would imagine when you describe this study as “simulating” a competitive sports program. It’s more of a clinical/scientific concept of aggression and quite dissimilar from actually playing hockey or lacrosse, for example. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Aggression_Paradigm) The participants were sitting alone inside a brain scanner playing an extremely basic video game, and being primed with some pure narrative about who their opponents and team mates were. Physical safety was not in question, and there was no interpersonal interaction (all other players were computer simulation). This says a lot about the power of narrative, and how much we operate on things we’re told and don’t have first hand knowledge of.
Also interesting: left-handed people were excluded. The paper doesn’t appear to say why, but I wonder if that was due to the design of the game UI (seems most likely), or if it was done for statistical reasons and/or known behavioral differences of left vs right handed people (this seems less likely, but possible?).
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Democrats only care as much as their corporate overlords pay them to care
Are you putting both reds and blues in your personal outgroup?
But the ingroup outgroups in this situation are those with money and power and those without. The political class represents money and power, nothing more and nothing less
The political class provides legislation to their constituents, the donors with money, while claiming that they care about regular working class Americans but doing literally nothing to ever help them
Republicans actively work to harm people through restrictive legislation and democrats inadvertently harm people through their careless and shitty legislation that on the surface sounds like it could help people but when you read the actual text its all bullshit carveouts for corporations to protect their exploitatively gained profits
They're just con artists gaming the country for money, plain and simple. But that's what happens when your cultural ideology puts money and profit and "the economy" above the people that make up the society