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Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

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Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

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How do I learn about what’s being discussed here? Why do I need a linker?

Here is a video presentation from Apple about the topic: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/110362

It has an introduction section on what is a linker and why you need one. The gist is, linker is the piece of software that puts together different source file, be it at compile time or runtime. So, the faster is your linker the quicker the app compiles and opens.

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

#22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rui has made it explicit that a commercial license is available. Hey Rui, you should replace "please call" with a dollar amount in order to increase your conversion rate ;)

I dislike "contact us for pricing" too, but pricing is hard! I don't know how much I should ask for. This is also a bit unusual business model because mold can be used for free. I'm happy if users pay me 10%-20% of the total cost they could save by using mold though.

I sort of wish Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all contribute $200K each and say hey can you now make Mold MIT or BSD.

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

#23
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Apple and Microsoft should really throw some money at Rui; Mold is a massive improvement to developer experience, and the sooner it's ported to their platforms the better. I find myself defaulting to Linux for Rust development these days, mostly because Mold makes the inner loop of development so much faster.

Can you please share the link about how it helps in inner loop? Sorry, I never heard of these tools and google is not returning any useful results

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

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post #22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dislike "contact us for pricing" too, but pricing is hard! I don't know how much I should ask for. This is also a bit unusual business model because mold can be used for free. I'm happy if users pay me 10%-20% of the total cost they could save by using mold though.

I sort of wish Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all contribute $200K each and say hey can you now make Mold MIT or BSD.

What's wrong with the current agpl license, especially for a linker?

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

#25
post #9

Apple and Microsoft should really throw some money at Rui; Mold is a massive improvement to developer experience, and the sooner it's ported to their platforms the better. I find myself defaulting to Linux for Rust development these days, mostly because Mold makes the inner loop of development so much faster.

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Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

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post #24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sort of wish Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all contribute $200K each and say hey can you now make Mold MIT or BSD.

What's wrong with the current agpl license, especially for a linker?

Corporations don't understand the GPL and how isolated, unmodified tools aren't viral.

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

#28
post #9

Apple and Microsoft should really throw some money at Rui; Mold is a massive improvement to developer experience, and the sooner it's ported to their platforms the better. I find myself defaulting to Linux for Rust development these days, mostly because Mold makes the inner loop of development so much faster.

Can you please share the link about how it helps in inner loop? Sorry, I never heard of these tools and google is not returning any useful results

https://www.google.com/search?q=mold+linker

Re: Mold/macOS is 11 times faster than the Apple's default linker to link Chrome

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post #22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dislike "contact us for pricing" too, but pricing is hard! I don't know how much I should ask for. This is also a bit unusual business model because mold can be used for free. I'm happy if users pay me 10%-20% of the total cost they could save by using mold though.

I sort of wish Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all contribute $200K each and say hey can you now make Mold MIT or BSD.

$200K is nowadays an annual total compensation of a junior dev. I believe mold values much more than a one year outcome of a typical 5-person junior dev team.
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