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Re: Cold Showers

#11

Post by chrisseaton »

leononame wrote: post #5
moralestapia wrote: post #2

>Hype: "Static Typing reduces bugs." Oof, that one is a huge can of worms.

This one definitely hits close to home. By empirical measure, static typing reduces bugs, but maybe it's just me. I definitely like the comfort of trusting my types. My only experience with dynamic typing is really node, which improves a bit with typescript. But I'm still extremely wary of it because it doesn't give you runtime guarantees. It irks me a lot that you can just do JSON.parse, declare any type on it and c…

> By empirical measure, static typing reduces bugs

As the article says, this does not appear to be actually true when you go and check.

Re: Cold Showers

#12

Post by CapmCrackaWaka »

> Benchmarking cutting-edge graph-processing algorithms running on 128-core clusters against a single-threaded 2014 Macbook Pro. The laptop consistently wins, sometimes by an order of magnitude.

LOL, this hits close to home. My company had a modeling specific VM set up to run our predictive modeling pipelines. Typical pipeline is about 50,000 to 5 million rows of training data. At best, using an expensive VM, we managed to get 2x training speed from lightgbm on the VM vs my personal work laptop. We tried GPU boxes, hyper threaded machines, you name it. At the end of the day, we decided to let our data scientists just run models locally.

Re: Cold Showers

#13

Post by soperj »

number6 wrote: post #8
keybored wrote: post #3

Hype: Cold showers are good for you (good stress) Shower: keybored, your shower is not cold enough to induce stress and you are too lazy to modify the showering experience in any way Caveats: Other people may be anti-lazy enough to modify the showering experience Notes: Check yourself

Most Times I can't bring myself to get into a cold shower. If I start warm I can cool down from there. Is there a way to start cold and go even colder?

It's pretty easy to start cold if you've just done a huge amount of cardio, otherwise there's nothing wrong with just turning off the hot water completely during a shower if you want a brief cold period.

Re: Cold Showers

#14

Post by cloogshicer »

> Static Typing reduces bugs.

At least to me, the big advantage of static typing is not that it (allegedly) reduces bugs, but that it aids my understanding and helps in navigating the program. It's a tool for thinking and communicating.

Re: Cold Showers

#15

Post by bilekas »

> "Static Typing reduces bugs."

I would argue that static typing reduces bug complexity/creep. Mainly from working in environments without proper testing during the js days, TS was rough at first, but did help.

Re: Cold Showers

#16

Post by agildehaus »

moralestapia wrote: post #2

>Hype: "Static Typing reduces bugs." Oof, that one is a huge can of worms.

Static typing makes refactoring easier. Your compiler can instantly tell you what you've broken.

Bugs are reduced by monitoring, testing, and reducing how much code there is so there's less surface area (which also makes monitoring and testing easier).

You reduce code by refactoring.

Re: Cold Showers

#17

Post by bilekas »

djmips wrote: post #7
hourago wrote: post #6

> Hype: "We need big data systems to handle big data." I do not get this one. It's incorrect by definition: "Big data refers to data sets that are too large or complex to be dealt with by traditional data-processing application software. " If you do not need a big data system, then it's not big data.

You may have answered your own question.

The answer is in the data..

Re: Cold Showers

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Post by tluyben2 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #11
leononame wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one definitely hits close to home. By empirical measure, static typing reduces bugs, but maybe it's just me. I definitely like the comfort of trusting my types. My only experience with dynamic typing is really node, which improves a bit with typescript. But I'm still extremely wary of it because it doesn't give you runtime guarantees. It irks me a lot that you can just do JSON.parse, declare any type on it and c…

> By empirical measure, static typing reduces bugs As the article says, this does not appear to be actually true when you go and check.

Well, how is this measured? My experience working over 3 decades with large teams also says this is so (static typing does prevent bugs) but that is not science. How do they measure this 'when you go and check'? I am really curious as I don't even understand how people make large systems without static typing and all massively complex systems that I personally have worked with that run for decades transacting billions$ etc without flaws are all statically typed.

Re: Cold Showers

#20

Post by mlyle »

cloogshicer wrote: post #14

> Static Typing reduces bugs. At least to me, the big advantage of static typing is not that it (allegedly) reduces bugs, but that it aids my understanding and helps in navigating the program. It's a tool for thinking and communicating.

And that's covered right there by the caveats.
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