So, physics is a dead-end? Given that Scott is running his own research lab, a year is a very long time and him working out of his field is an indication that physics is in a big trouble.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Maybe... Short sighted vs. far sighted vs. ignorance is bliss?
It's a secular/religious divide. (As it says in the post.) Though it's possible the people who think a theoretical future AI will turn the planet into paperclips have merely forgotten that perpetual motion machines aren't possible.
(Keep in mind that biological machines, ie life, have managed to turn the surface of the planet into 'green goo'.)
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#23AI is going to cause something like the industrial revolution of the 19th century: massive changes in who is rich, massive changes in the labor market, massive changes in how people make war, etc.
It’s already started really.
What worries me most is that as long as society is capitalist, AI will be used to optimize for self-enrichment, likely causing an even greater concentration of capital than what we have today.
I wouldn’t be surprised that the outcome is a new kind of aristocracy, where society is divided between those who have access to Ai and those who don’t.
And that I don’t think falls into the “Ai safety” field. Especially since OpenAi is Vc-backed
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#25> Also, next pandemic, let's approve the vaccines faster!
This is obviously very important to them. Is there some proof that the vaccine was unnecessarily delayed or just that they believe if we mess up and humanity suffers, so what?
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#26So, physics is a dead-end? Given that Scott is running his own research lab, a year is a very long time and him working out of his field is an indication that physics is in a big trouble.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a secular/religious divide. (As it says in the post.) Though it's possible the people who think a theoretical future AI will turn the planet into paperclips have merely forgotten that perpetual motion machines aren't possible.
Could you please explain your reasoning for the comparison to perpetual motion machines? (Keep in mind that biological machines, ie life, have managed to turn the surface of the planet into 'green goo'.)
None of em replace the entire planet though. That's a lot of rock to digest without any more energy to help you do it.
And a paperclip factory isn't self-reproducing (that would be a paperclip factory factory). It's just a regular machine that can break down. The people afraid of that one are imagining a perfect non-breaking-down non-energy-requiring machine because they've accidentally joined a religion.
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#28Seeing someone as trustworthy as Scott choose to work on AI safety is a pretty good sign for the state of the field IMO. It seems like a lot of studious people agree AI alignment is important but then end up shoehorning the problem into whatever framework they are most expert in. When all you have is a hammer etc... I feel like he has good enough taste to avoid this pitfall. Semi-related - I'd want to see some actual…
Symmetrically someone like him transitioning from quantum computing should imply something negative about the state of quantum computing.
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#29So, physics is a dead-end? Given that Scott is running his own research lab, a year is a very long time and him working out of his field is an indication that physics is in a big trouble.
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#30Seeing someone as trustworthy as Scott choose to work on AI safety is a pretty good sign for the state of the field IMO. It seems like a lot of studious people agree AI alignment is important but then end up shoehorning the problem into whatever framework they are most expert in. When all you have is a hammer etc... I feel like he has good enough taste to avoid this pitfall. Semi-related - I'd want to see some actual…
Symmetrically someone like him transitioning from quantum computing should imply something negative about the state of quantum computing.