SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

Post by badwolf » Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

srveale wrote: post #658

pvaldes wrote: post #543

To put things in context, the astonishing amount of five employees were fired. And more than 9400 employees weren't fired. It sounds like most Space X employees are doing fine. And we are talking about an example of "soviet management" here?

We have no idea how many other employees agreed with the five, and the point is that we'll never know, because the precedent of "speak up and you're fired" has now been set. Being an autocrat doesn't mean getting rid of everyone who disagrees with you, just the ones who dare to do something about it (or potentially might).

Post by qsdf38100 » Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

davesque wrote: post #748

riazrizvi wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worst thing? His influencing is central to his success. Unfortunately for civil discourse, it’s more effective to create controversial messaging that resonates with your followers, than sanitized messaging that is generally inoffensive. Controversial messaging makes your supporters increasingly loyal and attentive, as the noise from vocal ‘haters’ just keeps feeding your base. It’s perverse, it’s toxic, it’s exhausti…

That's a false dichotomy. In reality, there are more options than just "be boring" or "be sensational." Those other options just aren't in fashion right now.

Post by wolverine876 » Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:34 PM UTC

meatsauce wrote: post #831

uncomputation wrote: post #810

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It is pretty hypocritical though for Mr. Free Speech to fire people who have concerns rather than address those concerns in a civil dialogue. Musk likes to whinge about “censorship” amounting to banning a Twitter account but seems perfectly okay firing someone and removing their livelihood for speaking critically of him. Also retaliation is very much still illegal, not that it matters.

This is pure nonsense. Neither Musk or his company owes you a job, and you certainly shouldn't work at his company if you disagree with his vison or politics. Shedding the woke weight has to feel good, for both Musk and for other employees, who no doubt had to endure constant whining.

Post by wolverine876 » Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:38 PM UTC

Post by wolverine876 » Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 9:40 PM UTC

riazrizvi wrote: post #264

chasd00 wrote: post #125

Twitter is the worst thing to happen to Musk. The social media addiction knows no class/age/wealth/religious/creed boundary. It’s like social cancer that slowly destroys your relationship to society. Musk has done great things but these days I think he’s at his lowest point. /I’ve said this about three times now in threads like these.

Worst thing? His influencing is central to his success. Unfortunately for civil discourse, it’s more effective to create controversial messaging that resonates with your followers, than sanitized messaging that is generally inoffensive. Controversial messaging makes your supporters increasingly loyal and attentive, as the noise from vocal ‘haters’ just keeps feeding your base. It’s perverse, it’s toxic, it’s exhausti…